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Re: login failure on WindowsNT

From: Derek R. Price
Subject: Re: login failure on WindowsNT
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:03:43 -0400

Rich Salz wrote:

> > Then cvs:// could mean connect to port 2401 and ask
> > what authentication methods are valid.  The server would respond with a 
> > list and
> > the client would use whatever it thinks is the most secure to authenticate 
> > and set
> > up an encryption stream.
> Oooh, no, you *DON'T* want to do that -- it's a classic "man in the
> middle" attack.  I can sit between you and the server and force you to
> downgrade to a lower security level.  Early SSL had this problem.

Well, kinda.  An attacker could downgrade the security level to the minimum 
acceptable to the server and no lower.  If the lowest security level was 
perceived as
that dangerous to use, I'd assume the server's administrator wouldn't have set 
it as

> Designing security protocols is hard.  Recommend we stick to one hard
> problem (source control) here.
>         /r$

Well, I was trying to simplify the matter.  The current jumble of authentication
techniques seems to be a mess.  I was thinking this might serve to separate 
them out a
little better as a module and make them serve more invisibly.

Not that I'm in a hurry, mind you.  Just a project to stick on the list.  I 
still have
to get around to looking at Alexey Mahotkin's nserver model too.


Derek Price                      CVS Solutions Architect ( )
mailto:address@hidden     OpenAvenue ( )
Old heads as well as young may sometimes be charged with ignorance and
presumption.  The natural course of the human mind is certainly from credulity
to skepticism.
                        - Thomas Jefferson to Caspar Wistar, 1807

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