[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: Software/HD ecology
From: |
Lee Sau Dan |
Subject: |
Re: Software/HD ecology |
Date: |
20 Dec 2002 16:51:16 +0100 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 |
>>>>> "Anil" == Anil <anil@null.invalid> writes:
>> These kinds of info are more akin to `state'. One major
>> difference between `state' and `log' is that a `log' is `append
>> only'. The info you describe is always kept uptodate but you
>> can't know what it was before the last modification, so it's
>> very clearly not a `log'.
Anil> I worry about many things, but this would be rather low on
Anil> my list. If something came with emacs, it remains with
Anil> emacs. It doesn't become a MS Office file! What *are* you
Anil> talking about?
He's talking about what "log" means in the field of computing. "log"
means kind of historical record. Since history cannot be changed,
this means log files are never modified, only appended.
Anil> I apologize. I didn't mean to mislead anyone. When I said
Anil> unix logs information, a few posts above, I was writing
Anil> English and hoped people would read it as English. How
Anil> exactly were you misled, though?
Even in plain English, a "log book" is a book where you keep records
of past, historical events. It is abnormal to erase an entry in a log
book to make room to record new entries. You open a new log book for
that. New entries are always added to the log in the empty space, not
by replacing existing entries. Erasing old entries would counter the
purpose of a log book.
So, the file info (e.g. size, mod. time, owner) cannot be classifed as
any kind of "log".
Anil> Your suggestion is questionable too: "info" could also have
Anil> technical meaning to someone.
No, unless you're talking about GNU info. The word "info" is vague
and hence suitable here.
Anil> Probably does. I see no alternative to relying on other
Anil> people's common sense to read English as English.
We do read English as English. I can't see any reason for calling the
_file attributes_ "log". Calling it "info" is OK, as "info" is a
vague term.
Anil> By the way, you had claimed elsewhere that Emacs files are
Anil> well-localized in the file systems. You didn't respond to my
Anil> post that on my system I find (just for the *name* emacs,
Anil> not necessarily all emacs-specific files):
Like most GNU softwares, Emacs gives you (or your sys admin) lots of
flexibilities, including the flexibility of doing it in a weird,
strange, non-standard way. But that doesn't mean Emacs MUST be
configured and installed like that.
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
>From help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 12:45:31 2002
Path:
shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail
From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help
Date: 20 Dec 2002 16:54:19 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <m33cosn0t0.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam>
<84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam>
<5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <091220021652087216%ajanta@no.spam>
<101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <vf3cp5ix2u.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk>
<vf3cp4k92x.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> <111220021101520860%ajanta@no.spam>
<vfadjcif3n.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam>
<5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220022053507599%ajanta@no.spam>
<84k7ifo3s2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<87u1hjdwta.fsf@hurd.crasseux.com>
<121220021324043990%ajanta@no.spam>
<121220021419243187%anil@null.invalid>
<m3adj6ar1z.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
<161220021454522181%ajanta@no.spam>
<84pts1nfs5.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<171220021036551390%ajanta@no.spam>
<843cowcyxs.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
NNTP-Posting-Host: camaro.informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7
Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:349383
comp.sys.mac.advocacy:919176 comp.text.tex:238639 gnu.emacs.help:108349
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:45:31 -0000
>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Gro��johann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> writes:
Kai> Yes, indeed. Alas, the Unix crowd appears to follow the Perl
Kai> philosophy `There is more than one way to do it', and hence,
Kai> different Unices have different ways.
I consider this a good phenomenon. It is how evolution works:
varieties created by crossing over and mutation; the unsuitable ones
eliminated by natural selection. So, with time, the system would
evolve to an optimum.
--
Lee Sau Dan ���摰����(Big5)
~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
>From help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 12:45:31 2002
Path:
shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail
From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Date: 20 Dec 2002 17:09:16 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Lines: 21
Message-ID: <m3ptrwlljn.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <mailman.316.1040140647.19936.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
<m3bs3jxksx.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: camaro.informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cn-big5
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7
Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108350
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New to Emacs
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:45:31 -0000
>>>>> "ruhl@4dv" == ruhl@4dv net (Robert Uhl <<ruhl@4dv.net>)> writes:
ruhl@4dv> Although I'm sure that it's possible (look at the docs
ruhl@4dv> for nnimap-list-pattern...), I would use gnus to manage
ruhl@4dv> `folders' and such, and not leave anything on the IMAP
ruhl@4dv> server.
On the contrary, I prefer leaving the mail folders on the IMAP server.
That's easy to manage when your want to (even just occasionally)
access your mail boxes using a WWW gateway. It's also easier when
your home directory is not always at your hands in your computing
environment (e.g. when the home directory is only mountable from a
certain department or lab.)
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
>From help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 12:45:32 2002
Path:
shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!151.189.0.75.MISMATCH!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail
From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help
Date: 20 Dec 2002 17:02:21 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Lines: 23
Message-ID: <m3u1h8llv6.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam>
<slrnav1ed1.ho.smullerin@esb.bbn.com> <m2hedrm4oc.fsf@owlbear.local>
<84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam>
<5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <091220021652087216%ajanta@no.spam>
<101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <vf3cp5ix2u.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk>
<vf3cp4k92x.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> <111220021101520860%ajanta@no.spam>
<vfadjcif3n.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam>
<5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220022053507599%ajanta@no.spam>
<84k7ifo3s2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<87u1hjdwta.fsf@hurd.crasseux.com>
<84fzt3hvk8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<121220021405534518%anil@null.invalid>
<84n0nathms.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<m365tuaqsq.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
<84u1hdafip.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
NNTP-Posting-Host: camaro.informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7
Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:349384
comp.sys.mac.advocacy:919177 comp.text.tex:238640 gnu.emacs.help:108351
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:45:32 -0000
>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Gro��johann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> writes:
Kai> Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de> writes:
>> Users should not need to use these pathnames so much. Use
>> aliases or shell scripts.
Kai> Actually, with the previous system I used to do
Kai> module add i06/edit/emacs/20.7
Kai> and after that I could type "emacs" to invoke that version of
Kai> Emacs. Quite nifty, actually.
The GCC commandline front lets you select which compiler version to
use via the -V option, if you have several versions installed.
--
Lee Sau Dan ���摰����(Big5)
~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
>From help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 12:45:32 2002
Path:
shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail
From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Date: 20 Dec 2002 17:19:00 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Lines: 69
Message-ID: <m3lm2kll3f.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <mailman.316.1040140647.19936.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: camaro.informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cn-big5
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7
Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108352
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New to Emacs
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:45:32 -0000
>>>>> "Code" == Code Fox <codefox@ftml.net> writes:
Code> I just downloaded emacs 21.2 for windows. I haven't used it
Code> before. I'm just getting used to navigating and using the
Code> control and meta key commands. Right now I'm kind of
Code> overwhelmed by the features available in emacs.
Don't be greedy. Learn them one by one, gradually.
Code> 1. I use many scripting languages like PHP, ASP, and
Code> Python. If I want to write my own syntax hilighting for a
Code> particular language how do I do it?
Are you sure you really want to do that? I mean... writing your own
major mode?
In most cases, you don't. You just need to *customize* it. E.g. to
change the colours and fonts used for hilighting, you don't need to
write your own eLISP code. Simply customize the existing package.
Try M-x customize, and don't be surprised by the amount of
customizable items offered! Alternatively, if you're familiar with
LISP, you could read the .el file for the respective modes and put
some configurations in your ~/.emacs.
Code> 2. I have an IMAP mail account. I configured gnus to
Code> retrieve mails from my IMAP account but I couldn't see all
Code> folders. Is there an email client for emacs which would let
Code> me use my IMAP account with ease, like moving messages
Code> between 2 folders?
I've been using nnimap to access my mails via IMAP for over a year.
No problems. The site admins even changed it to IMAPS, and again, I
found how to make Gnus to handle it.
Could you be more specific about your problem?
Code> 3. I use various C++ compilers. How do I
Code> configure emacs to compile my program using a particular
Code> compiler?
The standard solution is not to do that. M-x compile by default
invokes "make". We normally use a Makefile to drive "make" to do what
we want. So, we can control which compiler to use in the Makefile.
It's worthwhile to learn to use "make" and write Makefiles anyway.
Anyway, you can customize what M-x compile does. Can you find it
under M-x customize?
Code> 4. How do I create a custom spell-check dictionary?
Don't worry about it. Just go ahead with M-x ispell-buffer. When it
prompts you to correct a word, and you think it is not misspelt, type
"i" to Insert it into your personal dictionary. When you finish the
spell check session, Emacs will prompt you in the mini-buffer whether
you want to save the personal dictionary.
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
>From help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 12:45:32 2002
Path:
shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!feed.news.nacamar.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail
From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help
Date: 20 Dec 2002 17:01:17 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <m3y96kllwy.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam>
<56cfb0e3.0212041458.5eab182a@posting.google.com>
<x5k7ipl35x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <061220020416350201%ajanta@no.spam>
<slrnav1ed1.ho.smullerin@esb.bbn.com> <m2hedrm4oc.fsf@owlbear.local>
<84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam>
<5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <091220021652087216%ajanta@no.spam>
<101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <vf3cp5ix2u.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk>
<vf3cp4k92x.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> <111220021101520860%ajanta@no.spam>
<vfadjcif3n.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam>
<5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220022053507599%ajanta@no.spam>
<84k7ifo3s2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
<87u1hjdwta.fsf@hurd.crasseux.com>
<121220021324043990%ajanta@no.spam>
<121220021419243187%anil@null.invalid>
<m3adj6ar1z.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
<171220020257413112%jdf23@some.email>
NNTP-Posting-Host: camaro.informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cn-big5
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7
Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:349385
comp.sys.mac.advocacy:919178 comp.text.tex:238641 gnu.emacs.help:108353
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:45:32 -0000
>>>>> "jdf23" == jdf23 <jdf23@some.email> writes:
>> That why we hav package management tools, like RPM on RedHat
>> and SuSE.
jdf23> Good for Red Hat and SuSE. Has it occured to you that there
jdf23> are other flavors of Linux, other versions of Unix,
Why not? I started my "Unix life" with primarily SunOS, but also used
DEC unix, HPUX, IRIX and AIX from time to time. I had Minix on my own
PC, and then Linux. I've used a few Linux distributions: Slackware,
RedHat, SuSE. Despite the differences, they're all similar to one
another. Once you've grasped the basic principles, it's so easy to
context-switch between these Unices. Actually, I used to open a few
X-clients from a few different platforms (DEC, SunOS/Solaris, AIX,
IRIS) to a single X-server at the same time. And I don't have to
really tell the differences between them.
jdf23> not to forget Mac OS X since the lead newsgroups in this
jdf23> thread are Mac groups?
Only played Macs for brief sessions of under 1 hour in the past 15
years.
Anil> Shouldn't you be able to know just what a particular file
Anil> named "dtabttf" doing on your system?
>> Unix programmers would have used a more descriptive filenames.
jdf23> Merely from looking at their names, I certainly can't
jdf23> always decipher what many of the unix files do. Nor can I
jdf23> always guess which program they might come form.
>> rpm -qf /etc/ntpd.conf
jdf23> No good on most Unix or even Linux systems.
Of course, you have to be familiar with the package manager. But why
not?
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
>From help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 12:55:17 2002
Path:
shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!170.207.51.80!not-for-mail
From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.rodgers@ihs.com>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:50:55 -0700
Lines: 21
Message-ID: <3E03587F.7000302@ihs.com>
References: <86d6nwk9oy.fsf@kronstadt.homeunix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.207.51.80
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1040406646 3403048 170.207.51.80 (16 [82742])
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US;
rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020406 Netscape6/6.2.2
X-Accept-Language: en-us
Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108354
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: customize question
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:55:17 -0000
Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> I'd like to reuse a customized variable (which is not autoloaded) from
> another package in my code. Is there a way to do that other than
> (require 'otherpackage) ?
Not that I know of. But you might be able to get away with wrapping that in
eval-when-compile.
> (In particular, I was thinking of declaring the same variable myself,
> either in my group or in the group of the other package. What would
> be the effect of that, and can it be depended on?)
I don't know. Why don't you declare your own variable and have it default to
the value of the other variable: (defvar foo-var bar-var).
--
<a href="mailto:<kevin.rodgers@ihs.com>">Kevin Rodgers</a>
- Re: Software/HD ecology (was Re:...Bug in Emacs 21.3.50), (continued)
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology (was Re:...Bug in Emacs 21.3.50), Ajanta, 2002/12/11
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Kai Großjohann, 2002/12/12
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Ajanta, 2002/12/12
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Ajanta, 2002/12/16
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Peter S Galbraith, 2002/12/23
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Anil, 2002/12/17
- Re: Software/HD ecology,
Lee Sau Dan <=
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, jdf23, 2002/12/17
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Ajanta, 2002/12/17
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Kai Großjohann, 2002/12/20
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2002/12/20
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Ajanta, 2002/12/17
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Peter S Galbraith, 2002/12/17
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, David Masterson, 2002/12/17
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, David Masterson, 2002/12/20
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Miles Bader, 2002/12/26
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Message not available
- Re: Software/HD ecology, Luis Fernandes, 2002/12/27