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RE: Unuseful keybindings
From: |
Drew Adams |
Subject: |
RE: Unuseful keybindings |
Date: |
Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:55:19 -0800 |
> > There is absolutely no reason for Emacs to bind `f3' and
> `f4' by default.
>
> I have no problem rebinding `f3' to `kill-this-buffer', and `f4' to
> `dired-jump' in ~/.emacs so they work like in GNU Midnight Commander
> (now I use Dired instead of MC, but old habits for keys persist ;-)
No, they should be UNbound. That's the point.
Your proposal is a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire".
These keys should not just be rebound to other non-repeatable commands (by which
I mean commands that you will not typically be repeated multiple times by simply
holding down the key).
> But there is a worse macro keybinding `C-x q' bound to
> `kbd-macro-query' that prevents using `C-x q' for more useful
> commands like `quit-window'.
Different issue. To avoid confusion it would be good to discuss that binding in
a separate thread (though the Subject line of this one is general enough for
it).
> I think this problem deserves more attention than binding F-keys.
No, it deserves less. It does not reflect a general problem and a problem with
policy. It's truly just about a particular key binding, and it can probably be
discussed and resolved without dealing with any fundamental problem. Another
reason for addressing it in a separate thread. Just a suggestion.
> Regarding `f11', the reason why it's a good change is to provide
> compatibility in Emacs between graphical displays and text terminals.
> In xterm while running `emacs -nw' typing `f11' toggles Full
> Screen mode, but on graphical displays this failed until recent addition
> of the `f11' keybinding.
Again, a pretty weak reason. But better than what's been given so far.
There are other differences between text terminal keys and graphic terminal
keys. And `xterm' is not all text terminals, IIUC (please correct me if I'm
mistaken).
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, (continued)
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Sebastien Vauban, 2012/12/22
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Dmitry Gutov, 2012/12/22
- RE: Unuseful keybindings, Drew Adams, 2012/12/22
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Dmitry Gutov, 2012/12/22
- RE: Unuseful keybindings, Drew Adams, 2012/12/22
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Xue Fuqiao, 2012/12/22
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Daniel Colascione, 2012/12/22
- advertizing keyboard macros better [was: Unuseful keybindings], Drew Adams, 2012/12/22
- Re: advertizing keyboard macros better [was: Unuseful keybindings], Xue Fuqiao, 2012/12/22
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Juri Linkov, 2012/12/23
- RE: Unuseful keybindings,
Drew Adams <=
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Kevin Rodgers, 2012/12/26
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Xue Fuqiao, 2012/12/26
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/12/26
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Dmitry Gutov, 2012/12/23
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Jambunathan K, 2012/12/23
- RE: Unuseful keybindings, Drew Adams, 2012/12/23
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Jambunathan K, 2012/12/23
- RE: Unuseful keybindings, Drew Adams, 2012/12/23
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Jambunathan K, 2012/12/23
- Re: Unuseful keybindings, Jambunathan K, 2012/12/23