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Re: just-the-text Emacs frame
From: |
Mohsen BANAN |
Subject: |
Re: just-the-text Emacs frame |
Date: |
Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:09:39 -0700 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:06:22 -0500, Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden> said:
Ted> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:19:49 -0700 Mohsen BANAN <address@hidden> wrote:
MB> Panel of Tiles Example:
MB> -----------------------
MB> Consider that we were trying to mimic what
MB> Windows 7 Mobile is doing in:
MB>
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/02-15-10winphone2.jpg
Ted> I'll reply to the rest later, but please let's not try to mimic
Ted> anything. If we create something, let it be the right fit for our
Ted> needs, not a rehash of other people's ideas. These tiles are just large
Ted> buttons with HTML and other dynamic content, aren't they? Emacs can do
Ted> it 100x better, and we don't need kinetic scolling or visual candy to
Ted> make it useful.
Ted> I bring this up here because emacs-panel.el is intended to fix some of
Ted> the things I dislike about Gnome and other desktop environments,
Ted> especially how they mimic the Windows and Mac OS X desktop environments
Ted> and how expensive their resource usage is. So I hope you will agree.
My goal has been to add considerations for emacs
on handsets (small screen + touch) into the mix.
In that context I am convinced that tiles, larger
buttons, keypads and full screen menus have a
place towards adapting emacs to handsets.
This does not mean that we should abandon the
emacs paradigm and mimic the iPhone/Android/WinMob/...
paradigms.
So, I am proposing experimentation with the following
hierarchy:
- Bare-Frames (no mini-buf, no menu, ...)
- Related Windows
- Panels (Collection of Tiles)
- Tiles (Optionally Live and Active)
If such facilities were in place, I think we could
move towards making emacs more usable on a
handset.
The purpose of my citing the Windows 7 Mobile
screen was to point applicability of the above to
a common full screen menu model.
Let's now throw Microsoft Windows 7 Mobile
completely out of the picture.
Consider use of emacs's calc on a handset.
In that case, the prefered UI is likely :
(calc-keypad)
The basic structure of (calc-keypad) is:
- 2 related windows in the current frame.
- A custom made text grid functioning as a keypad
In this case, I am saying let's add to emacs
necessary abstraction and facilities so that:
- The two related windows can fit properly in a
Bare-Frame without any waste of screen space
on the handset.
- Instead of a custom made grid functioning as a
keypad let's provide tiles such that keypads
are done nicer and better.
If these ideas fit in the direction that you are
headed, please consider my requests.
Thanks.
...Mohsen
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/01
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Leo, 2011/06/01
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/02
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/02
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Mohsen BANAN, 2011/06/02
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/02
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Mohsen BANAN, 2011/06/02
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/02
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame,
Mohsen BANAN <=
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/03
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Mohsen BANAN, 2011/06/03
- Re: just-the-text Emacs frame, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/02
- GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties (was: just-the-text Emacs frame), Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/02
- Re: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties (was: just-the-text Emacs frame), Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/02
- Re: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/02
- Re: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties, Jan Djärv, 2011/06/03
- Re: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/03
- Re: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/03
- Re: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/03