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Re: Still unable to build trunk
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Still unable to build trunk |
Date: |
Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:06:42 +0200 |
> From: Jim Meyering <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:47:04 +0100
>
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> From: Jim Meyering <address@hidden>
> >> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden,
> >> address@hidden
> >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:35:17 +0100
> >>
> >> Requiring the installation of a few commonly-used and very portable tools
> >> does not make a steep curve. It's more of a small, one-time investment.
> >
> > You forget about dependencies.
>
> Hardly. The few programs we're talking about
> (mainly just m4, automake and autoconf) have very few dependencies.
You are talking about a specific example, while I'm talking about
adding prerequisites in principle.
> People participating in emacs development (even if only building
> from latest cloned sources) can be expected to follow a few simple
> instructions. If they have to rerun a few commands after someone
> else upgrades their development system, that does not strike me as an
> unreasonable burden, and certainly not as an exponentially heavy one.
It's easy for us old-timers to say. Not so easy for everyone else to
follow suit.
> I see that you're using over 22GiB(!) there.
> Remove just one of your many emacs-*.tar.gz files
> and that will free far more space than any tiny tool
> installation would consume.
Please believe me that I need everything that I have there.
> > Anyway, this is just an example of why adding more prerequisites is
> > not something to do easily, IMO.
>
> If we recoil from every task that at first appears nontrivial,
> we will never make progress.
There's a world of possibilities between "recoil from" and "accept
without discussion".
> Re "just a couple gnulib functions", Paul deliberately made the
> initial introduction small. There are many more opportunities.
You cannot fight the fire if you wait until it consumes the entire
building.
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, (continued)
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Chong Yidong, 2011/01/20
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Paul Eggert, 2011/01/21
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Chong Yidong, 2011/01/21
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Paul Eggert, 2011/01/22
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/01/22
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Jim Meyering, 2011/01/23
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/01/23
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Jim Meyering, 2011/01/23
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/01/23
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Jim Meyering, 2011/01/23
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- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Paul Eggert, 2011/01/23
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- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Miles Bader, 2011/01/23
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Glenn Morris, 2011/01/24
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Stefan Monnier, 2011/01/24
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/01/24
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Paul Eggert, 2011/01/24
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Andreas Schwab, 2011/01/24
- Re: Still unable to build trunk, Glenn Morris, 2011/01/24