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Re: Plans for ahead
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Gregory Casamento |
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Re: Plans for ahead |
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Sat, 28 Nov 2015 09:44:31 -0500 |
Which theme are you using? A modern theme is sorely needed.
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:19 AM, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 09:41, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps the best card deck is covered by GNOME/GTK, since even if not
>> "gnome" other GTK application blend nicely in. So for example You can have
>> Xfce, then Firefox, GIMP and Inkscape blend quite well in. No real native
>> Office suite, but for the end-user OpenOffice will fit in.
>>
>> On GNUstep, because of its distinctive design, an application like
>> OpenOffice sticks out immediately.
>>
>> Perhaps we could do with some "ports" similar to the Mac ones, to have a
>> more integrated look. It could be perhaps done for Firefox/Seamonkey and
>> OpenOffice. With our menu subsystem, app bundles and some integration it
>> would be nice.
>>
>> Without, it would be a bad advertisement, like the original "GNUstep LiveCD"
>> ended up to be.
>
> I agree. The FreeBSD GNUstep packages include a lot of things, but you need
> to do a lot of tinkering to make them integrate even vaguely with typical
> environments. For the ones that we use in the lab, I’ve configured a more
> modern looking theme[1] and the in-window menus. With this, the apps still
> look fairly distinctive, but work quite well and people don’t complain.
>
> The problem is the difficulty of setting this globally. I’ve not been able
> to find a good way of setting these globally at all. The symlink approach to
> making tools appear in bin/ doesn’t work with rpaths, so I have to manually
> replace those symlinks with shell scripts anyway and have been able to
> shoehorn things into that script. This works well for a single application
> on a single machine, but is not really a scalable solution.
>
> I would love to be able to ship a port of the GNOME theme that, on
> installation, would allow GNUstep applications to look and feel like GNOME
> applications *for all users of the system with no additional configuration*.
> Without this, it requires *huge* buy-in from potential developers: yes
> GNUstep may be great, but it’s not great enough to persuade your users to
> abandon their favourite DE and existing software.
>
> David
>
> [1] With the default GNUstep theme, people assume that the applications are
> written with tk. It doesn’t look distinct and NeXT-like to most people, it
> just looks old.
>
> -- Sent from my PDP-11
>
--
Gregory Casamento
GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
http://ind.ie/phoenix/
- Re: Plans for ahead, (continued)
- Re: Plans for ahead, Gregory Casamento, 2015/11/27
- Re: Plans for ahead, Gregory Casamento, 2015/11/27
- Re: Plans for ahead, Svetlana A. Tkachenko, 2015/11/27
- Re: Plans for ahead, Svetlana A. Tkachenko, 2015/11/27
- Re: Plans for ahead, Gregory Casamento, 2015/11/27
- Re: Plans for ahead, Gregory Casamento, 2015/11/27
- Re: Plans for ahead, Svetlana A. Tkachenko, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead, Riccardo Mottola, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead, David Chisnall, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead, Svetlana A. Tkachenko, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead,
Gregory Casamento <=
- Re: Plans for ahead, David Chisnall, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead, Alessandro Sangiuliano, 2015/11/28
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- Re: Using a theme Re: Plans for ahead, Alessandro Sangiuliano, 2015/11/29
- Re: Plans for ahead, Riccardo Mottola, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead, Svetlana A. Tkachenko, 2015/11/28
- Re: Plans for ahead, Gregory Casamento, 2015/11/29
- Re: Plans for ahead, Germán Arias, 2015/11/29
- Re: Plans for ahead, Gregory Casamento, 2015/11/29
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