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Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard) |
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Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:54:37 +0100 |
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Hi,
On 2007-11-28 10:46:39 +0100 Dr Tomaž Slivnik <T.Slivnik@haldev.com> wrote:
> I am very seriously considering switching to a Unix variant + GnuStep (be it
> Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, etc. - I do not know). The Unix layer of Apple is
> definitively unsatisfactory. As is their approach to releasing software -
> release lots of flashy gummy but pay no attention to whether staple features
> actually work.
I appreciate Darwin, but I too share your view of too much gummy stuff as you
call it. I dislike so many choices in MacOS.. but I soo much like other things
it is very conflictuary. I still run 10.2.8. But switching to another unix with
GNUstep is not viable yet: i have 3 computers, but stil hand back to mac.
> But I believe that most likely switchers / potential valuable developer
> contributors to GnuStep are now on Mac OS X. You have to make it easy for
> such people to install GnuStep on their machines.
But why GNUstep on MacOS? The ultimate goal of applications in GAP is to have
them run on Mac too, but natively built.
> Has TexShop or NeXTTeX been ported to Gnustep? What about OmniGroup, could
> they be persuaded to port?
You raise an important point. As GAP co-admin I have tried several times to
contact old OpenStep program authors to motivate them to release their source,
possible under a suitable license. I always failed. Gregory, the project
maintainer, failed too even with this "title". Also with private people (Scott
Hess comes to my mind). It is very sad because prorgams of high quality get
lost.
The case of Omni was again and again of topic since the wide range of
applications they worked on.
I contacted them for the OmniWeb stuff (the sources of the framework are
available, but under a strange license) but they said it was too much work to
put them in shape, even if I requested them "in any state".
Omni worked also on the Lighthouse applications but those are from Sun now and
they are probably lost forever.
If you find some stuff, possibly rereleased as GPL or BSD, don't hesistate to
contact me. We can port it and distribute it. But first you need the source.
An exceedlingly nice application to port (and generally maintain for mac too)
would be TIFFany but i never got a reply. That would be a top-quality
application.
The advantage of OpenStep over Mac stuff is as you state yourself not only the
easier compatibility, but the better quality of many of those applications
compared to many mac siblings which seem to be crammed together just for
effects. Sure there is good stuff there too, no doubt.
Riccardo
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- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Renaud Molla, 2007/11/13
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Dr Tomaž Slivnik, 2007/11/27
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Markus Hitter, 2007/11/27
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Dr Tomaž Slivnik, 2007/11/27
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Markus Hitter, 2007/11/28
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Dr Tomaž Slivnik, 2007/11/28
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Markus Hitter, 2007/11/28
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Dr Tomaž Slivnik, 2007/11/28
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Riccardo, 2007/11/28
- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard),
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- Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard), Riccardo, 2007/11/28