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Re: NSToolbar
From: |
Philippe C . D . Robert |
Subject: |
Re: NSToolbar |
Date: |
Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:35:18 +0100 |
Hi,
On Jan 12, 2004, at 5:57 PM, Stefan Urbanek wrote:
just read that in the GNUstep/Cocoa thread and became curious:
What are
the reasons for this dislike of NSToolbar? I'm a happy Cocoa user
and I'm
just curious.
I bloat NSWindow.
What about context sensitive toolbar, where context is focused (key)
window? Applications will have just one NSToolBarPanel which will
change according to the focused window. It can be either floating or
with fixed position somewhere on the screen. No screen pollution and
no need of views relayout in windows.
With this we will get another concept of "Action Panel" ( = Toolbar
panel/window) to the existing one: Inspector Panel. The "Inspector"
panel changes its contents according to the selected object where you
can "inspect" the object's contents. The "Action Panel" will change
it's contents according to the selected window and will display all
available actions that can be done in the "selected" window.
What do you think?
No, please, this is IMHO a really bad proposal, a toolbar is what its
name implies and belongs to its window. If you do not like this UI
element, then just do not use it, but please do not try to make
something different out of it just because of personal taste. And as
you know - sorry for repeating myself - toolbars were and always have
been part of the NEXTSTEP UI, just not in the form of NSToolbars, so
there is no reason to reject the principle of a toolbar!
Besides the screen pollution is no argument against NSToolbars as you
can easily hide them completely whenever you want to, at least on Mac
OS X.
-Phil
--
Philippe C.D. Robert
http://www.nice.ch/~phip/
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), (continued)
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Ken Ferry, 2004/01/13
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Ken Ferry, 2004/01/13
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Ken Ferry, 2004/01/13
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Jason Clouse, 2004/01/12
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep<---> Cocoa...), Alexander Malmberg, 2004/01/13
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep<---> Cocoa...), Jason Clouse, 2004/01/13
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Alex Perez, 2004/01/13
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- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep<---> Cocoa...), Uli Kusterer, 2004/01/18
- Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Gregory John Casamento, 2004/01/12
Re: NSToolbar, Stefan Urbanek, 2004/01/12
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- Re: NSToolbar, Uli Kusterer, 2004/01/13
- Re: NSToolbar, Alex Perez, 2004/01/13
Re: NSToolbar, Quentin Mathé, 2004/01/13
Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Quentin Mathé, 2004/01/12
Re: NSToolbar (was Re: Portability/Compatability between GNUstep <---> Cocoa...), Alex Perez, 2004/01/12