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Re: project goal Re: Release schedule
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Björn Gohla |
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Re: project goal Re: Release schedule |
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Wed, 16 Apr 2003 03:37:45 +0200 |
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On 2003-04-16 01:24, Jason Clouse wrote:
> On 2003-04-15 06:26:07 +0000 Willem Rein Oudshoorn <woudshoo@xs4all.nl>
wrote:
> > I agree with most points raised by Helge. From my limited point
> > of view superiority has nothing to do with becoming popular.
> > Filling a need seems to be the crucial factor.
>
> That's exactly my point. There is NO way GNUstep can fill a need on X11
> because, with a few minor exceptions, all the major applications that
> people need are already available there. That's why Fresco (and the easy
> portability between OS X and GNUstep) is a major opportunity. With Fresco,
> there IS a serious need for a desktop system and applications.
>
> > And from a user point of view, why would a user try something new?
>
> If we were talking about Windows or Mac users, they wouldn't. But many
> people working with Linux (and I assume with BSD as well) love new toys.
> I've been in more than one discussion of Fresco and people always expressed
> sadness that there weren't any applications on Fresco because they would
> love to try it out.
>
> I don't, however, recall anyone saying, "Why would I try Fresco? X is good
> enough."
>
> I'm not saying it would be the route to world domination but there is a
> need to be filled there. I'm not a programmer by profession--I only dabble
> in it for fun--so I don't know how difficult it would be to do this
> (perhaps someone knowledgable could walk me through the backend code and
> explain how a new back module would be written). But if it were fairly
> straightforward, it might be an avenue to more recognition for two projects
> that are of value.
the biggest point is that as i understand it fresco aims to provide a
comprehensive widget set as part of their server. so an apropriate backend
would consist of more or less simple wrappers around their interface,
actually to make full use of what fresco provides these wrappers would in
fact replace -gui. i do not know how flexible their widget set is in terms of
making it look like *step.
one perspective for gnustep could be to become the development language of
choice for fresco apps. i contend that the nature of objc allows for a much
more natural corba interface, than say c++.
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- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, (continued)
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Willem Rein Oudshoorn, 2003/04/15
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Jason Clouse, 2003/04/15
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Jeff Teunissen, 2003/04/15
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Björn Gohla, 2003/04/15
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Jeff Teunissen, 2003/04/16
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Pete French, 2003/04/16
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Nicolas Souchu, 2003/04/20
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Jeff Teunissen, 2003/04/21
- Re: project goal Re: Release schedule,
Björn Gohla <=
- Fresco, Björn Giesler, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Björn Gohla, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Björn Giesler, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Björn Gohla, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Willem Rein Oudshoorn, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Björn Giesler, 2003/04/17
- CORBA and ObjC [was Re: Fresco], Willem Rein Oudshoorn, 2003/04/17
- Message not available
- Re: Fresco, Dirk Theisen, 2003/04/16
Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Philippe C.D. Robert, 2003/04/15