Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Renaming PyBOMBS

[Iluta V]

Richard is very right, most new users installed GnuRadio + other tools via PyBombs, and not via gnuradio binaries, etc., since other means of installation proved out to be quite difficult, well, at least for myself. After some tries of difficult installs via binaries I switched to Pybombs and did it with the first try.

So PyBombs is very closely related Gnuradio, and is associated with installation of it. So should be related to Gnuradio with GR, and I liked this one:

GR-PYSYS.

Also, GRAB reminds right away of GRUB - boot loader, at least for me..

Sincerely,

Iluta

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Tim Newman <address@hidden> wrote:

I agree with Tim, the tool is not gnuradio specific, and I personally dont think it needs to be locked to gnuradio and have a "gr" in the name anywhere and uniquely searchable is a must.  I'm a big fan of the original name. Otherwise: 

PySIS - Pybombs Software Installer System.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Richard Bell <address@hidden> wrote:

Yeah I should have clarified that. I tried the full package manager route of install about 2 years ago for gnuradio and uhd. It didn't work. I installed uhd through apt-get and gnuradio through apt-get with no success.

I'm just bringing that up so we don't assume that is an easy possibility for someone to do. As far as I know from my stab at it two years ago, it's not viable. Someone should try that route now to see if it is before we assume anything.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Tim O'Shea <address@hidden> wrote:

Ubuntu packages uhd

Assuming other oses do too

I'm sure there are up to date ppas somewhere too

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015, 1:34 PM Richard Bell <address@hidden> wrote:

Is there a way for a new user to get uhd installed from the package manager though? A lot of people want to dive right into gnu radio with hardware, doing simple things like spectrum analysis. I'm not aware of a way of getting the uhd + gnuradio setup running that's easier then pybombs. I very well could be wrong here.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Tim O'Shea <address@hidden> wrote:

Most new users should be installing gnu radio binaries via their os package manager repos or ppa.   Pybombs should be used for 1. Helping get up to date oot modules set up and deployed ( like pip ) and 2. Helping developers set up their development environment.

So I'm not sure installer is the right idea to impart on new users at all

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015, 1:23 PM Richard Bell <address@hidden> wrote:

I'd like to throw in another point from an entry level perspective. Those people who might need pybombs most, are those who need names that tell them what it's for the most. Even if it is incorrect to call pybombs an installer, it would really help the entry level folks (which I would claim without support is the largest population of the community at any given time) understand what it's for and how they should use it. I think we all have the experience of learning new tools and running into tool names, which even though the description is spot on for what its for, at the time carried zero value for the new guy using it (thinking mostly about Xilinx tool names here).

With that said, I think it would be good for the community to use the word installer in the tool that makes gnuradio and uhd really easy to install, and is what the vast majority of people I'm guessing would use it for.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Martin Braun <address@hidden> wrote:

On 23.12.2015 09:28, Stefan Wunsch wrote:
> I don't want to destroy your idea, but GRAB sounds like CRAP as well and
> you can think of the associated sentences ;)

'grab' is also a very common english verb, so I think people would be
able to distinguish. It also sounds like 'crab' if you like :)

M

>
> On 12/22/2015 09:31 PM, Richard Bell wrote:
>> GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
>>
>> Then we can say things like "Go GRAB it" when referring to a needed module
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Braun <address@hidden>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and now that we're
>>> re-releasing it, this is a good time to think about it. Complaints about
>>> the name include:
>>>
>>> - It may or may not be true that people have been detained by TSA for
>>> working on PyBOMBS at the airport[1]
>>> - The name suggests a Python-related packages (like Pylint, PyPI...)
>>> rather than a GNU Radio-related tool
>>> - People can't agree on a capitalization
>>> - No one can remember what the acronym stands for
>>>
>>> Sure, this is not a critical thing, but now's a good chance to bring it
>>> up and also, this is not a joke :)
>>>
>>> Here's how we're going to do this:
>>>
>>> - Please suggest new names in this thread.
>>> - I will choose from those names based on 'can I live with this name',
>>> 100% subjectively.
>>> - New names will be put up for a vote. This will include an option to
>>> keep the old name.
>>> - Finally, the result of the vote will be used as a strong suggestion on
>>> what the new name will be.
>>>
>>> There already have been some suggestions:
>>>
>>> - gromit -- the GNU Radio out-of-tree module installation tool
>>> - the groot
>>> - grpm -- the GNU Radio package manager
>>>
>>>
>>> OK guys, bring up the ideas!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> [1] It's not.
>>>
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