Re: [directory-discuss] Unable to search for GPL packages

[bill-auger]

a few things i should note about your wiki page

1. why do you have gitea and notabug listed under non-free?

Phabricator also listed under non-free notes that it is "Apache licensed, not
GPL" - so it seems that your definition of non-free is: "anything that is not
GPL licensed" - the FSF would not agree with that distinction - permissive
licenses are considered free - the distinction with the GPL is that they are not
copyleft - if that is the distinction you really want to highlight, then the
headers should be "Copyleft" vs "Permissive" rather than "Free" vs "NonFree"

also it is not clear why both gitea and notabug would appear on the same list -
gitea is a self-hosted option and notabug is a public host - that is an
important distinction to make - the code running notabug is gogs which is
extremely similar to gitea - that particular distinction is hardly worth making
- gitea is a fork of gogs and the vast majority of the code-base is in common
between them - the main distinction between the two is in the project management
philosophy - for that reason, the entry for "gitea" may as well be for both
"gitea/gogs" because they are nearly identical from the user perspective
-presenting them as such would then make it obvious that gitea/gogs is listed
twice with no meaningful distinction noted as to why



2. i notice that some entries have quite good explanation of features while
other say very little - for example, the pagure description probably describes
every other one that page accurately aside from it is "written in Python"
pagure has some unique feature that are attractive to downstreams that i would
emphasize such as:
  * customizations can be done out of tree which makes upgrading fairly painless
  * entire projects can be easily exported and imported from one instance to
another, all by using only git, including issues, pull requests, and their
comments because they are stored as git repos - this means for example one could
host their project on pagure.io for some time and then migrate everything to
their own instance once they decide to self-host - the project can even be
mirrored on multiple servers with everything perpetually synchronized by
external cron tasks or pagure hooks



3. the URL to the evaluation comparison spreadsheet by peers should not be used
formally because it exists only as a public etherpad which is still world
writable - it could disappear or be vandalized at any time - i have attached a
pristine copy to this message - if you would like to present that information,
please host this static file on your server rather than the etherpad link -
also, note that this was done almost 2 years ago - some things have changed -
for one, we were not aware of gitea at the time, i think it did not exist yet;
but gitea would now have the distinction of being the only one that is fully
librejs compatible - otherwise, most everything else about gogs would be
applicable to gitea - if gitea had been considered at the time, it probably
would be displayed as a single column: "gogs/gitea"

August 2016

Gogs

GitLab CE

Pagure

Kallithea

Phabricator

Launchpad

FusionForge

Vervis

Trac

GitBucket

CodingTeam

Live demo instance

http://try.gogs.io

http://gitlab.com/explore

https://stg.pagure.io/

http://kallithea-scm.org/repos

http://admin.phacility.com

http://launchpad.net

http://fusionforge.org/projects/fusionforge/

http://dev.seek-together.space

http://trac.edgewall.org/demo-1.0

http://gitbucket.herokuapp.com  (root/root)

http://codingteam.net

Live demo instance

Language

Go

Ruby

Python

Python

PHP

Python

PHP

Haskell

Python

Scala

PHP

Language

Test suite

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS - E2E

FAIL

PASS

PASS (core)

FAIL

Test suite

Copyleft License

FAIL - MIT

FAIL - MIT

PASS - GPLv2+

PASS - GPLv3

FAIL - Apache 2.0

PASS - AGPL

PASS - GPL2+

FAIL - CC0 (standalone/binary release would be GPL though because depends on Darcs and Pandoc which have GPL libraries)

FAIL - Modified BSD

FAIL - Apache

PASS - AGPL

Copyleft License

Free _javascript_

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS - no JS at all

PASS

PASS

PASS - (except for google analytics)

Free _javascript_

Are the developers libre-concious? (or are they "open source"?)

FAIL - (Independent)

FAIL - (GitLab)

PASS - (Fedora)

PASS - (Software Freedom Conservancy)

FAIL - (faebook/phacility)

FAIL - (Canonical)

PASS - (FSF France)

PASS - (Independnet)

PASS - (Independnet)

? (Independent) (needs feedback)

PASS - (Independnet)

Are the developers libre-concious? (or are they "open source"?)

Does NOT require CLA for contributions

PASS - (they had one for a day and then removed it)

FAIL - https://gitlab.com/help/legal/individual_contributor_license_agreement.md

PASS - CLA is very liberal - it is not a copyright assignment https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Fedora_Project_Contributor_Agreement

PASS - contribution guidelines are similar to Pagure but not formal

FAIL - (is not a copyright assignment but they reserve the right to dual licence permissive)

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

Does NOT require CLA for contributions

Can disable 3rd party services (or uses none)

FAIL - Slack (mandatory - WONTFIX), Gravatar (optional), CDNs to serve libraries (optional)

FAIL - Google reCAPTCHAS and other Google CDN. Social auth (google, twitter, github, bitbucket). Asks users for their "social" accounts (I'm afraid they won't remove this "feature")

PASS - libravatar or gravatar (optional) openID (optional)

PASS - gravatar (optional)

FAIL - reCAPTCHAS, Google auth, cloudfront.net (need feedback), AWS (probably optional)

PASS - need more feedback

PASS - (gravatar, trivialdev.com)

PASS - Libravatar

PASS - (needs feedback)

PASS - Omnipresence, Google Analytics (on their website at least)

Can disable 3rd party services (or uses none)

Issue tracker

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL - (proposed - but can integrate external tracker)

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

Issue tracker

Gogs

GitLab CE

Pagure

Kallithea

Phabricator

Launchpad

FusionForge

Vervis

Trac

GitBucket

CodingTeam

Milestones / Roadmap

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

Milestones / Roadmap

Forks and Merge Requests

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL - (couldn't find it)

FAIL - (only within teams)

FAIL - (forks only - pull requests propsed)

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

Forks and Merge Requests

On-site alerts

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL - it does appear that this feature is in progress because admins do get on-site alerts and issue comments auto-complete @mantions

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

On-site alerts

External alerts

PASS - Webhooks, Email (push only)

PASS - Email, RSS

PASS - Webhooks, Email

PASS - RSS

PASS - Email

PASS - Email, Atom

PASS - Email, RSS

FAIL

PASS - Email, RSS

PASS - Webhooks, Email, RSS

PASS - Webhooks, Email, XMPP, RSS, Atom

External alerts

Public API

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL - (Issues only - via plugin)

PASS (can use curl etc. for modifying actions, since there's no JS and the web API is plain RESTful

PASS - (GitHub compatible)

FAIL

Public API

Code viewer

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

Code viewer

Diff viewer

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

Diff viewer

History viewer

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

History viewer

Blame viewer

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

PASS

FAIL

Blame viewer

Raw viewer (or cherry-pick files)

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

Raw viewer (cherry-pick files)

Markdown (aside from wiki)

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS - not markdown but HTML on project description, wiki, and issues

Markdown (aside from wiki)

Releases (or binary hosting)

PASS

FAIL - (need feedback)

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

Releases (or binary hosting)

Wiki

PASS

PASS

FAIL - (documentation via HTML)

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

Wiki

Project Forums

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

Project Forums

Code snippets / pastebin

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

PASS

Code snippets / pastebin

Federation

FAIL - (WONTFIX)

FAIL

PASS - (allows PR from remote instance)

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS - (WIP core feature)

FAIL

FAIL

PASS - (allows cross-forge searching and forkin?)

Federation

Gogs

GitLab CE

Pagure

Kallithea

Phabricator

Launchpad

FusionForge

Vervis

Trac

GitBucket

CodingTeam

Private repos

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL - (premium feature)

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

PASS

Private repos

VCS supported

Git

Git

Git

Git, Mercurial

Git, Mercurial, SVN

Git, Bazaar

Bazaar, CVS, Darcs, Git, Mercurial, and Subversion

Git, Darcs

SVN and Git and plugins for Mercurial, Bazaar, Darcs, Perforce, Monotome and CVS

Git

SVN, Git, Mercurial

VCS supported

Already works with LibreJS

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS - Almost, besides google analytics only 2 pages do not

Already works with LibreJS

Works without _javascript_

FAIL - Mostly good, but some important features don't

FAIL - cannot register without JS

PASS - except branch selector

FAIL

FAIL - Mostly good, but there are some dropdown menus that don't

FAIL - (gitweb)

PASS

PASS

FAIL - Mostly good, but there are many dropdown menus that don't work without JS

PASS

Works without _javascript_

Does NOT require non-free plugins (eg Flash, Silverlight, Facebook)

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

Does NOT require non-free plugins (eg Flash, Silverlight, Facebook)

License selection when creating new repo

PASS (free licenses only)

FAIL

FAIL - (not yet?)

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

PASS - (free licenses only)

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS - (license is mandatory - free licenses only)

License selection when creating new repo

Gogs

GitLab CE

Pagure

Kallithea

Phabricator

Launchpad

FusionForge

Vervis

Trac

GitBucket

CodingTeam

Allows users to export data

FAIL - (WONTFIX)

PASS

PASS - each project has 4 git repos: * sources * docs * tickets metadata * PRs metadata

FAIL

FAIL - (need feedback)

PASS - (via plugin)

FAIL

FAIL?

FAIL

PASS - (if you host your own federated server)

Allows users to export data

Use libgit

FAIL - Forks all commands to git binary

PASS

PASS - libgit2 (pygit2)

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS - Uses hit (git repo format impl in Haskell) for repo view and git binary for pull&push

PASS - libgit2 (pygit2)

FAIL

Use libgit

Good Performance

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS - (optional async request queues)

PASS

PASS

PASS

PASS

demo instance is rather slow (need feedback)

PASS

Good Performance

Acceptable UI (by user vote)

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

PASS

Acceptable UI (by user vote)

Responsive UI (does it work on smartphones?)

FAIL (very buggy)

PASS

PASS - some pages have small issues

FAIL

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

PASS - few minor issues that should be easily fixable

FAIL - partially responsive, but many pages have issues

FAIL - mostly works but like Gogs forcibly removes horizontal scrollbars, making the pages with issues completely unusable

FAIL

Responsive UI (does it work on smartphones?)

Build / CI Server Integration

FAIL

PASS

PASS

FAIL

PASS

PASS

PASS

FAIL

FAIL

FAIL

'Build / CI Server Integration

Dogfooding

FAIL - https://github.com/gogits/gogs

PASS - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/

PASS - https://pagure.io/pagure

PASS - https://kallithea-scm.org/repos/kallithea

FAIL - https://github.com/phacility/phabricator

PASS - https://launchpad.net/launchpad

PASS - https://fusionforge.org/projects/fusionforge/

PASS - https://dev.seek-together.space/s/fr33domlover/r/vervis

PASS - https://trac.edgewall.org/browser

FAIL - https://github.com/gitbucket

PASS - http://codingteam.net/project/codingteam

Dogfooding

Gogs

GitLab CE

Pagure

Kallithea

Phabricator

Launchpad

FusionForge

Vervis

Trac

GitBucket

CodingTeam

TALLY

NOTE: sums are based on a crude grep of the cell string content - PASS(+1) FAIL(-1) - so ensure that all colored cells start with one of those tokens

Pass

19

23

27

20

13

15

25

18

20

17

27

Pass

Fail

16

12

8

15

12

16

10

17

14

10

8

Fail

Net Points

3

11

19

5

1

-1

15

1

6

7

19

Net Points

NotABug Grade

54%

66%

77%

57%

52%

48%

71%

51%

59%

63%

77%

NotABug Grade

UNCERTAINTY

Margin of error (Missing entries)

0

0

0

0

10

4

0

0

1

8

0

Margin of error (Missing entries)

Lowest Possible Grade

54%

66%

77%

57%

37%

43%

71%

51%

57%

49%

77%

Lowest Possible Grade

Highest Possible Grade

54%

66%

77%

57%

66%

54%

71%

51%

60%

71%

77%

Highest Possible Grade

NOTABLE RESULTS

* Vervis is exempted from this list because it is still alpha - but notably it scored higher than some Unique Properies: * CodingTeam and Launchpad are the only ones that are AGPL * CodingTeam is the only one that is nearly librejs compatible * CodingTeam is the only one that has federation * CodingTeam is the only one that requires all repos to have a license * FusionForge is the only one that has an agile issue tracker Unique Missing Properies: * Pagure is the only one that does not have per-file history view * Kallithea is the only one that does not have any sort of issue tracker (but integrates external trackers) * Launchpad is the only one that does not have some sort of external nofitications Possibly Unique Properies (missing data on some): * Gogs and CodingTeam are probably the only ones that do not have a test suite (missing data for Phabricator and Launchpad) * FusionForge is probably the only one that has full E2E tests (missing data for Launchpad) * Pagure is probably the only one with complete export (missing data for Phabricator and Launchpad) * Trac is probably the only one that does not have private repos (missing data for Launchpad) * Pagure is probably the only one that does not have a wiki (but has HTML docs) (missing data for Launchpad) * Phabricator is probably the only one that has on-site alerts (missing data for GitBucket) * Kallithea is probably the only one that does not have milestones (missing data for GitBucket, Phabricator, and Launchpad) * Kallithea is probably the only one that does not render markdown (missing data for Phabricator and Launchpad) * Launchpad is probably the only one that has non-free _javascript_ (missing data for Phabricator) * GitLab is probably the only one that has a copyright assignment agreement (missing data for Phabricator and Launchpad) * There are probably none that do not have raw file view (or cherry-pick dl) (missing data for Phabricator and Launchpad)

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