Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Windows 8.1 Icecat Bug Report

[Ivan Zaigralin]

Sorry for the mixup, I was referring to

https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/31.8.0/icecat-31.8.0.en-US.win32.zip

which I assumed to be a Win32 binary.

On 07/15/2015 01:07 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> Ivan, I suppose you have written my name by mistake*, and you were
> saying all that to another person. Another possibility is that I
> expressed bad in my bad english and you've understood me in the inverse
> sense of my thoughts.
> 
> (*) I don't provide Win32 binaries + I agree whole your arguments.
> 
> 
> El 15/07/15 a les 02:43, Ivan Zaigralin ha escrit:
>> Narcis, I am a bit confused by your apparent confusion, even as you seem
>> to be providing a Win32 binary.
>>
>> What I want to say here is my strictly personal opinion, and it does not
>> represent the views of other people associated with this project, nor
>> those of any organizations I happen to be affiliated with.
>>
>> I believe that Gnuzilla providing support for either Win32, OS X, or any
>> commercial mobile platform is a mistake because it is a total waste of
>> the development resources. The following argument would also work for
>> any platform which spits on (user) privacy and security.
>>
>> Sometimes it makes sense to provide free software on a non-free
>> platform, especially when it replaces a non-free app (e.g. libreoffice),
>> or has no non-free equivalent (e.g. LaTeX). But is there a point at all
>> in providing something like IceCat? Its only differences from the stock
>> Firefox focus on privacy and security, which the users of non-free
>> platforms already gave up completely. Giving a Windoze user IceCat is
>> like giving a pillow to a man who jumped from the roof of the Empire
>> State. Technically speaking, it will soften the blow, but in practice
>> it's just dead weight. When compatibility issues are taken into account,
>> there is basically no advantage over the stock Firefox.
>>
>> This issue reminds me of a lengthy rant I left on the TOR dev list,
>> accusing them of, well, incompetence (since I didn't want to assume
>> malice right away) for providing Windoze binaries. This was right after
>> the big dragnet closed on the drug stores, with (allegedly) hundreds of
>> secret services and users unmasked. I argued that giving Windoze users
>> TOR is not just useless, but counterproductive, since it gives a
>> completely false sense of anonymity where there is absolutely none. As a
>> matter of fact, it would be trivial for the law enforcement to update
>> Windoze to report and/or poison all local TOR activity, and by now it
>> has probably been done.
>>
>> IceCat for Win32 is definitely not in the same "incompetence" category,
>> but unless a case can be made for why it has anything on Firefox in that
>> environment, I'll keep calling it a waste.
>>
>> On 07/12/2015 11:19 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>>> "I'm trying to install icecat on Windows 8.1 "
>>>
>>> WHY ?!
>>>
>>>
>>> El 12/07/15 a les 13:42, John ha escrit:
>>>> I'm trying to install icecat on Windows 8.1
>>>>
>>>> Steps to produce bug:
>>>> 1    Download 31.7.0 win32 zip file
>>>> 2    Extract with 7zip
>>>> 3    Navigate to the directory *\icecat-31.6.0.en-US.win32\icecat
>>>> 4    Run icecat.exe as administrator
>>>> Result:
>>>> 1    My mouse will have a hourglass symbol and I'm able to find
>>>> icecat.exe in task manager for 1 second
>>>> 2    Normal cursor returns and icecat isn't found in taskmanager. There
>>>> is no trade of me ever having tried to run icecat.exe
>>>>
>>>> I've tried running in various Windows comparability modes and version
>>>> 31.6.0. I still get the same result.
>>>>
>>>>
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