Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Windows 8.1 Icecat Bug Report

[Narcis Garcia]

Ivan, I suppose you have written my name by mistake*, and you were
saying all that to another person. Another possibility is that I
expressed bad in my bad english and you've understood me in the inverse
sense of my thoughts.

(*) I don't provide Win32 binaries + I agree whole your arguments.


El 15/07/15 a les 02:43, Ivan Zaigralin ha escrit:
> Narcis, I am a bit confused by your apparent confusion, even as you seem
> to be providing a Win32 binary.
> 
> What I want to say here is my strictly personal opinion, and it does not
> represent the views of other people associated with this project, nor
> those of any organizations I happen to be affiliated with.
> 
> I believe that Gnuzilla providing support for either Win32, OS X, or any
> commercial mobile platform is a mistake because it is a total waste of
> the development resources. The following argument would also work for
> any platform which spits on (user) privacy and security.
> 
> Sometimes it makes sense to provide free software on a non-free
> platform, especially when it replaces a non-free app (e.g. libreoffice),
> or has no non-free equivalent (e.g. LaTeX). But is there a point at all
> in providing something like IceCat? Its only differences from the stock
> Firefox focus on privacy and security, which the users of non-free
> platforms already gave up completely. Giving a Windoze user IceCat is
> like giving a pillow to a man who jumped from the roof of the Empire
> State. Technically speaking, it will soften the blow, but in practice
> it's just dead weight. When compatibility issues are taken into account,
> there is basically no advantage over the stock Firefox.
> 
> This issue reminds me of a lengthy rant I left on the TOR dev list,
> accusing them of, well, incompetence (since I didn't want to assume
> malice right away) for providing Windoze binaries. This was right after
> the big dragnet closed on the drug stores, with (allegedly) hundreds of
> secret services and users unmasked. I argued that giving Windoze users
> TOR is not just useless, but counterproductive, since it gives a
> completely false sense of anonymity where there is absolutely none. As a
> matter of fact, it would be trivial for the law enforcement to update
> Windoze to report and/or poison all local TOR activity, and by now it
> has probably been done.
> 
> IceCat for Win32 is definitely not in the same "incompetence" category,
> but unless a case can be made for why it has anything on Firefox in that
> environment, I'll keep calling it a waste.
> 
> On 07/12/2015 11:19 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> "I'm trying to install icecat on Windows 8.1 "
>>
>> WHY ?!
>>
>>
>> El 12/07/15 a les 13:42, John ha escrit:
>>> I'm trying to install icecat on Windows 8.1
>>>
>>> Steps to produce bug:
>>> 1    Download 31.7.0 win32 zip file
>>> 2    Extract with 7zip
>>> 3    Navigate to the directory *\icecat-31.6.0.en-US.win32\icecat
>>> 4    Run icecat.exe as administrator
>>> Result:
>>> 1    My mouse will have a hourglass symbol and I'm able to find
>>> icecat.exe in task manager for 1 second
>>> 2    Normal cursor returns and icecat isn't found in taskmanager. There
>>> is no trade of me ever having tried to run icecat.exe
>>>
>>> I've tried running in various Windows comparability modes and version
>>> 31.6.0. I still get the same result.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
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