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Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks


From: Eugene Surowitz
Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:21:12 -0400
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Personally, I would very much prefer a single wiki.

I believe that users would have great difficulty in distinguishing
the various forks in a systematic way; they may not have
been the one to set up which ever variation was installed with
their working group.

Gene

On 4/21/2013 11:00 PM, Bill Page wrote:
Tim,

I have no comment concerning your trademark claims but it was certainly not my
intention to cause any confusion. I have updated the web page to which you 
referred
to indicate that it uses FriCAS.

The axiom-wiki web site is currently hosted by the FriCAS project and Waldek has
commented in an email to the FriCAS list that he does not intend that the web 
site be
exclusive to FriCAS but he does not have the resources to support more than the
FriCAS part of the the site. Since this is a wiki the contents of the site is 
under
the control of the wiki user community.  If there is continued disagreement 
about the
appearance and contents of the site regarding the use of the work "axiom", then 
the
likely result is that the original Axiom project will no longer be represented 
there
at all. But before anyone takes such steps I think it would be better to 
discuss it a
little further.

Regards,
Bill Page.

On 21 April 2013 18:54, Tim Daly <address@hidden
<mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:

    Bill,

    You posted a note to the FriCAS mailing list about Frobenius algebras,
    pointing to a web page on the "Axiom Wiki".

    Today I received an Axiom bug report...
        "the enumerate()$V function does not work"

    So, I looked at the page pointed out in the bug report:
    http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxObserverAsIdempotent2

    It has the line:
        gens: List M := enumerate()$V

    and CLEARLY STATES THAT THIS IS AXIOM OUTPUT.

    Axiom does not implement enumerate from that domain.

    So I fired up a copy of FriCAS and found that it exists there.

    Bill, I could forgive this "mistake" by anyone else but not you.
    I have begged and pleaded with you to not spread confusion between
    Axiom and the forks. I have begged and pleaded with Waldek and Gaby.

    Please stop. Please. I'm begging you.

    Do the professional thing, the right thing.
    Use "Axiom" when you use Axiom.
    Use "FriCAS" when you use FriCAS.
    Stop using FriCAS and calling it Axiom.

    Axiom is a trademark of the Axiom project, not of FriCAS or OpenAxiom.

     >From the faq:

    ===================================================================
    FAQ 46: Axiom Trademark information
    ===================================================================
    The name "Axiom" and the Axiom-included iconic images are common
    law trademarks of this project. The term of service applies to the
    code distributed and compiled versions of code distributed from the
    Axiom websites at
    axiom-developer.org <http://axiom-developer.org>
    savannah.nongnu.org/projects/axiom 
<http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/axiom>
    sourceforge.net/projects/axiom <http://sourceforge.net/projects/axiom>
    github.com/daly/axiom <http://github.com/daly/axiom>


    You are deliberately causing confusion and the result is that I
    get bug reports that don't apply.

    Please either change the page to use Axiom facilities or
    change the page to use the name FriCAS.

    Please.

    Tim Daly


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