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[Savannah-hackers-public] [task #15295] confusing savane savannah


From: Peter Liscovius
Subject: [Savannah-hackers-public] [task #15295] confusing savane savannah
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 14:48:16 -0400 (EDT)
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  <https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/?15295>

                 Summary: confusing savane savannah
                 Project: Savannah Administration
            Submitted by: peterdd
            Submitted on: Wed 05 Jun 2019 08:48:14 PM CEST
         Should Start On: Wed 05 Jun 2019 12:00:00 AM CEST
   Should be Finished on: Wed 05 Jun 2019 12:00:00 AM CEST
                Category: None
                Priority: 5 - Normal
                  Status: None
                 Privacy: Public
        Percent Complete: 0%
             Assigned to: None
             Open/Closed: Open
         Discussion Lock: Any
                  Effort: 0.00

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Details:

It is quite confusing on many levels for an outsider.

To my current understanding Savannah's software is called Savane, but when I
search savane in projects I only get 2 outdated failed rewrite attempts.

So it seems the project main page of Savane is
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/administration/

But then there are not only 3 versioning systems in use there: git,
subversion, cvs - they are also not in sync or lead to the real up to date
source:

In the 'Development Tools' section:

The first 'Git Repository' - 'Browse Source Repository'
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/administration.git
last edit was 2012!

Only when you click on 'Git Repository' leads to a page
https://savannah.nongnu.org/git/?group=administration
where is stated that there are 4 different git repositories for the same
software:

GNU Savannah
Sav!  (what is this???)
Savannah's Savane (whats the difference to GNU Savannah?)
Savannah external test suite (ok..)
So I have to clone all to see on which people really work?


Why not add some notes beside the source links in that they are outdated? Or a
comment beside the links in the Development Tools section?

Ok, finally I seemed to found the right and cloned it, but then:
file ChangeLog last entry is 2007-10-05. WTF?
Ok, I look into NEWS and there is: 2019-01-09 3.4 (ok, wipe sweat from
forehead :-)

Then there are 
grep -rin gna.org | wc -l
253

references to a mysterious domain gna.org that does not exist (anymore).



Then I tried http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/SavaneInABox/
, but the link to the box does not exist.

I had good experience using vagrant for local testing. Maybe provide a
Vagrantfile for easy tryout Savane?
- A vagrant base box
- some apt-get (as you prefer deb/ubuntulike distris)
- pull/clone savane
- some setup shell commands
- (re)start mysql + apache services
- done

I also detected some security issues with current savane. Where to report?




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