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Re: [Qemu-ppc] [RFC 5/5] virtio-balloon: Safely handle BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE
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David Gibson |
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Re: [Qemu-ppc] [RFC 5/5] virtio-balloon: Safely handle BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE < host page size |
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Sat, 13 Oct 2018 17:40:09 +1100 |
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:06:50AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 12/10/2018 05:24, David Gibson wrote:
> > The virtio-balloon always works in units of 4kiB (BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE), but
> > on the host side, we can only actually discard memory in units of the host
> > page size.
> >
> > At present we handle this very badly: we silently ignore balloon requests
> > that aren't host page aligned, and for requests that are host page aligned
> > we discard the entire host page. The latter potentially corrupts guest
> > memory if its page size is smaller than the host's.
> >
> > We could just disable the balloon if the host page size is not 4kiB, but
> > that would break a the special case where host and guest have the same page
> > size, but that's larger than 4kiB. Thius case currently works by accident:
> > when the guest puts its page into the balloon, it will submit balloon
> > requests for each 4kiB subpage. Most will be ignored, but the one which
> > happens to be host page aligned will discard the whole lot.
>
> Actually I would vote for disabling it if the host page size is not 4k.
> This is broken by design and should not be worked around.
I really don't think that's feasible. This is not some theoretical
edge case: essentially every KVM on POWER system out there with
balloon enabled is in this situation. And AIUI, a bunch of common
management layers routinely enable the balloon. Just disabling this
for non-4k systems will break existing, supported production setups.
> I consider 64k a similar case as huge pages in the hypervisor (from a
> virtio-balloon interface point of view - which is broken by design for
> these cases).
Technically it is very similar, but again, this is in routine use on
real systems out there.
> > This occurs in practice routinely for POWER KVM systems, since both host
> > and guest typically use 64kiB pages.
> >
> > To make this safe, without breaking that useful case, we need to
> > accumulate 4kiB balloon requests until we have a whole contiguous host page
> > at which point we can discard it.
>
> ... and if you have a 4k guest it will just randomly report pages and
> your 67 LOC tweak is useless.
Yes.
> And this can and will easily happen.
What cases are you thinking of? For POWER at least, 4k on 64k will be
vastly less common than 64k on 64k.
> > We could in principle do that across all guest memory, but it would require
> > a large bitmap to track. This patch represents a compromise: instead we
>
> Oh god no, no tracking of all memory. (size of bitmap, memory hotplug,
> ... migration?)
Quite, that's why I didn't do it. Although, I don't actually think
migration is such an issue: we *already* essentially lose track of
which pages are inside the balloon across migration.
> > track ballooned subpages for a single contiguous host page at a time. This
> > means that if the guest discards all 4kiB chunks of a host page in
> > succession, we will discard it. In particular that means the balloon will
> > continue to work for the (host page size) == (guest page size) > 4kiB case.
> >
> > If the guest scatters 4kiB requests across different host pages, we don't
> > discard anything, and issue a warning. Not ideal, but at least we don't
> > corrupt guest memory as the previous version could.
>
> My take would be to somehow disable the balloon on the hypervisor side
> in case the host page size is not 4k. Like not allowing to realize it.
> No corruptions, no warnings people will ignore.
No, that's even worse than just having it silently do nothing on
non-4k setups. Silently being useless we might get away with, we'll
just waste memory, but failing the device load will absolutely break
existing setups.
> > Signed-off-by: David Gibson <address@hidden>
> > ---
> > hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 67 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> > include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h | 3 ++
> > 2 files changed, 60 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> > index 4435905c87..39573ef2e3 100644
> > --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> > +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> > @@ -33,33 +33,80 @@
> >
> > #define BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE (1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT)
> >
> > +typedef struct PartiallyBalloonedPage {
> > + RAMBlock *rb;
> > + ram_addr_t base;
> > + unsigned long bitmap[];
> > +} PartiallyBalloonedPage;
> > +
> > static void balloon_inflate_page(VirtIOBalloon *balloon,
> > MemoryRegion *mr, hwaddr offset)
> > {
> > void *addr = memory_region_get_ram_ptr(mr) + offset;
> > RAMBlock *rb;
> > size_t rb_page_size;
> > - ram_addr_t ram_offset;
> > + int subpages;
> > + ram_addr_t ram_offset, host_page_base;
> >
> > /* XXX is there a better way to get to the RAMBlock than via a
> > * host address? */
> > rb = qemu_ram_block_from_host(addr, false, &ram_offset);
> > rb_page_size = qemu_ram_pagesize(rb);
> > + host_page_base = ram_offset & ~(rb_page_size - 1);
> > +
> > + if (rb_page_size == BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE) {
> > + /* Easy case */
> >
> > - /* Silently ignore hugepage RAM blocks */
> > - if (rb_page_size != getpagesize()) {
> > + ram_block_discard_range(rb, ram_offset, rb_page_size);
> > + /* We ignore errors from ram_block_discard_range(), because it
> > + * has already reported them, and failing to discard a balloon
> > + * page is not fatal */
> > return;
> > }
> >
> > - /* Silently ignore unaligned requests */
> > - if (ram_offset & (rb_page_size - 1)) {
> > - return;
> > + /* Hard case
> > + *
> > + * We've put a piece of a larger host page into the balloon - we
> > + * need to keep track until we have a whole host page to
> > + * discard
> > + */
> > + subpages = rb_page_size / BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE;
> > +
> > + if (balloon->pbp
> > + && (rb != balloon->pbp->rb
> > + || host_page_base != balloon->pbp->base)) {
> > + /* We've partially ballooned part of a host page, but now
> > + * we're trying to balloon part of a different one. Too hard,
> > + * give up on the old partial page */
> > + warn_report("Unable to insert a partial page into virtio-balloon");
>
> I am pretty sure that you can create misleading warnings in case you
> migrate at the wrong time. (migrate while half the 64k page is inflated,
> on the new host the other part is inflated - a warning when switching to
> another 64k page).
Yes we can get bogus warnings across migration with this. I was
considering that an acceptable price, but I'm open to better
alternatives.
> > + free(balloon->pbp);
> > + balloon->pbp = NULL;
> > }
> >
> > - ram_block_discard_range(rb, ram_offset, rb_page_size);
> > - /* We ignore errors from ram_block_discard_range(), because it has
> > - * already reported them, and failing to discard a balloon page is
> > - * not fatal */
> > + if (!balloon->pbp) {
> > + /* Starting on a new host page */
> > + size_t bitlen = BITS_TO_LONGS(subpages) * sizeof(unsigned long);
> > + balloon->pbp = g_malloc0(sizeof(PartiallyBalloonedPage) + bitlen);
> > + balloon->pbp->rb = rb;
> > + balloon->pbp->base = host_page_base;
> > + }
> > +
> > + bitmap_set(balloon->pbp->bitmap,
> > + (ram_offset - balloon->pbp->base) / BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE,
> > + subpages);
> > +
> > + if (bitmap_full(balloon->pbp->bitmap, subpages)) {
> > + /* We've accumulated a full host page, we can actually discard
> > + * it now */
> > +
> > + ram_block_discard_range(rb, balloon->pbp->base, rb_page_size);
> > + /* We ignore errors from ram_block_discard_range(), because it
> > + * has already reported them, and failing to discard a balloon
> > + * page is not fatal */
> > +
> > + free(balloon->pbp);
> > + balloon->pbp = NULL;
> > + }
> > }
> No, not a fan of this approach.
I can see why, but I really can't see what else to do without breaking
existing, supported, working (albeit by accident) setups.
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