Re: Cpanel boycott

[Thomas Joseph]

My reply to Chris ...

Thanks folks

--- On Sat, 12/24/11, Thomas Joseph <address@hidden> wrote:

> From: Thomas Joseph <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Cpanel boycott
> To: "Chris Murphy" <address@hidden>
> Cc: "Gregg Levine" <address@hidden>
> Date: Saturday, December 24, 2011, 8:39 PM
> May be that I should not have
> posted.
> 
> My thought was, though I do not run that specific email
> server, 
> still I believe that the original post must have rang
> bells
> to a few admins in our list.Verifying the truth behind, is
> left 
> with them. If it is true, someone's life is saved.
> 
> I fail to understand, why is it so different from a
> post-that says,
> this x.y.z version of grub does not work with Ubuntu a.b.c
> or any
> distro-for that matter.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/23/11, Chris Murphy <address@hidden>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Chris Murphy <address@hidden>
> > Subject: Re: Cpanel boycott
> > To: "Thomas Joseph" <address@hidden>
> > Cc: "Gregg Levine" <address@hidden>
> > Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 11:40 PM
> > Is it Jackie, or Jack, or Craig or
> > Chris? Because the original poster has at least those
> > aliases by his own pen. Has made paranoid assertions
> > including that she cc's her sheriff on her emails.
> Claims to
> > be posting for the last time on the subject and then
> email
> > bombs the list with a dozen responses. Immediately
> resorted
> > to name calling upon the first criticism that the post
> might
> > not have been suitable for this list, with the
> juvenile and
> > disgusting "puppy rapist" ad hominem.
> > 
> > And there was no point in the original post, it was a
> > caustic trolling comment to boycott a product without
> any
> > explanation whatsoever. One had to click on a URL, and
> read
> > through a completely insane and incoherent rant
> containing
> > no evidence but pure conjecture, and in every case of
> posted
> > chat logs this person is using yet another alias.
> > 
> > This person is psychotic paranoid and delusional
> troll.
> > It's bizarre you'd defend this person.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
> > 
> > > To the mailing-list,
> > > 
> > > Personally,
> > > 
> > > I don't think that jackie is in violation.
> > > 
> > > Agreed, this is a grub list. But, why would
> someone
> > use grub ?
> > > 
> > > To boot. 
> > > 
> > > And why someone would definitely have to have it
> to
> > boot?
> > > 
> > > Why not, 'well .. it is not booting. I can do a
> fresh
> > install and try ..?'
> > > 
> > > He is a sysadmin. He is answerable to the entire
> org
> > if one server he
> > > commands fail.
> > > 
> > > And why is Jackie's post important to us ?
> > > 
> > > Many of us use cpanel, whether we like it or not
> ..
> > > 
> > > As a sysadmin,I do have concerns about the
> machines I
> > am responsible for.
> > > 
> > > I would take it positive, if anyone brings in a
> > point.
> > > 
> > > And I would take it as a spam if jackie's post
> did say
> > something like
> > > 
> > > "Bad credit? No problem. We can help you" or the
> > sort.
> > > 
> > > Saying again, jackie was trying to convey a
> possible
> > dos if anyone of us
> > > running a certain mail server under cpanel.
> > > 
> > > I stay away from comments wrt the responses
> jackie got
> > and the way he answered.
> > > 
> > > Ppl, think the hole is a Tsunami and jackie
> wanted to
> > alert everyone that
> > > it is coming, whether you live in the vicinity or
> in a
> > distant continent.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Fri, 12/23/11, Neal Murphy <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > >> From: Neal Murphy <address@hidden>
> > >> Subject: Re: Cpanel boycott
> > >> To: address@hidden
> > >> Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 7:03 AM
> > >> On Thursday 22 December 2011 20:07:08
> > >> jackie sparks wrote:
> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Cpanel/324347710917547
> > >> 
> > >> I perused the link. Whether or not it
> details
> > valid
> > >> concerns is immaterial to 
> > >> the expressed purpose of this mailing list.
> What
> > is
> > >> material is that the topic 
> > >> of the link has nothing whatever to do with
> grub
> > or
> > >> assisting users of grub to 
> > >> work through problems they have using grub.
> > >> 
> > >> According to the democratic rules governing
> this
> > list, you
> > >> lost your argument 
> > >> before you started. Your original message
> was
> > >> off-topic--totally unrelated--
> > >> and, thus, should not have been posted to
> this
> > list in the
> > >> first place. You 
> > >> were wrong to post it to this list, you were
> wrong
> > to
> > >> reject the initial, 
> > >> plain chastisement for doing so, you were
> wrong
> > for
> > >> escalating your rhetoric, 
> > >> and your continuing actions serve only to
> erode
> > any support
> > >> you might have 
> > >> received from members of this list. Please do
> us
> > the favor
> > >> of dropping the 
> > >> subject.
> > >> 
> > >> Good day to you.
> > >> 
> > >>
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