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Re: lamers on IRC


From: Thomas Lord
Subject: Re: lamers on IRC
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 22:12:50 -0700
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FWIW, a modern, p2p, group-structured system with at least pictures,
short video/audio, very basic hypertext etc... appeals to me
as a way to try to help free people from untrustworthy social
media because I think it spans a nice range of use cases.  For
example, there could be some hubs that aggregate real climate
scientists, or real music experts, or whatever -- and "everyone"
would want to get groups from those big dogs and in the same
system, local (geographic or logical "local") backwaters
could exist.   PLUS - and this is big - it would create a symbiotic
IRL social network among hosts and users.

That, not the details of history, is my main point.  I'm not
just being nostalgic (I think / hope).

-t


On 2022-05-27 22:04, Thomas Lord wrote:
Uhm, "upstream host", is that another computer that receives
to the same feed as you so thus gets your posts or what is it?


Example from real life.  In high school I interned at a dinky little
start-up that was a net-news edge node.   The system administrators
at that little company set up an internal net news host the same way
someone might bring in an old ping pong table - to improve the work
environment.

That company dialed out to a more established company down the
road that, as a regional industry courtesy, not only hosted its
own internal net news host but connected to even bigger fish
upstream and casually offered peering to local small companies.


Google used its economic power and social influence to first
centralize what was left of mainstream netnews and then to
kill it off.

Well, you can tune into nntp.aioe.org with Gnus this very
instant and see how useful it is. But killed - no.

Yes, I am being a bit absolutist there.

I suppose to be a little more accurate I would say that they
killed it as a way of sharing groups that had developed into
widely used global connected social media (relative to the scales of its
day).

To be sure, the not-really-multi-media email-style message format
didn't exactly help sustain interested in net news.

-t



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