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Re: Open source - Free software
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Barry Margolin |
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Re: Open source - Free software |
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Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:15:55 -0400 |
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In article <1159425522.504415.197140@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Roger Johansson" <roger4911@gmail.com> wrote:
> Barry Margolin wrote:
>
> > > "Free Software" is open source. Free software, like free milk, is
> > > something you aren't charged for. It's a shame they chose such an
> > > ambiguous word.
>
> > While it may be a shame, they've been using the phrase for about 20
> > years now. It's become part of the industry lexicon. Similarly, we
> > have the jargon "freeware" that refers to software distributed at no
> > cost.
>
> Have you heard the expression "spin doctor". That expression describes
> what you seem to be doing.
>
> You talk about the expression "free software" in very authoritative
> terms, like "part of the industry lexicon". You describe the word
> "freeware" in a derogatory way and call it "jargon".
That wasn't my intent, I was just trying not to use the same word twice
in a paragraph. It's an old habit I learned from creative writing
teachers (is it in Strunk & White?), although perhaps it's inappropriate
for this type of writing.
>
> > So there shouldn't be much ambiguity when the context is
> > understood -- we have distinct terms for these different concepts.
> > AFAIK, there's no other common term for what is called "free software",
>
> Why not call it "open source software", or GPL or LGPL software, or
> public domain software, etc..?
Open source software is not the same as free software (as I've mentioned
elsethread, open source is a subset of free). And GPL is just one free
software license, so it's not an appropriate general term.
>
> Why do you absolutely want to use the very ambiguous expression "free
> software"?
>
> I can answer that question myself, actually. You want to use the
> expression "free software" for propagandistic purposes, to create and
> establish a new linguistic convention.
I don't think I have an agenda. I think the posters who refuse to
accept that a phrase has acquired an idiomatic meaning beyond the
literal interpretation of the constituent words are the ones who have an
agenda. I didn't create this term, and after 20 years it's no longer
"new".
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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- Re: Open source - Free software, (continued)
- Re: Open source - Free software, Barry Margolin, 2006/09/27
- Re: Open source - Free software, spike1, 2006/09/27
- Re: Open source - Free software, Barry Margolin, 2006/09/27
- Re: Open source - Free software, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, 2006/09/27
- Re: Open source - Free software, Richard Tobin, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, 2006/09/29
- Re: Open source - Free software, Al Klein, 2006/09/27
- Re: Open source - Free software, Barry Margolin, 2006/09/27
- Re: Open source - Free software, Roger Johansson, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software,
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- Re: Open source - Free software, Roger Johansson, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Al Klein, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/09/29
- Re: Open source - Free software, Chris, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Al Klein, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Jim, 2006/09/28
- Re: Open source - Free software, Barry Margolin, 2006/09/28