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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "Ceterum censeo, GPLv3 esse delen
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Alexander Terekhov |
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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "Ceterum censeo, GPLv3 esse delendam" |
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Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:45:28 +0200 |
David Kastrup wrote:
[...]
> The GPL (in any version) does not dictate that manufacturers have to
> equip the system with rewritable memory. But if they do, its access
In comments to
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060922134536257
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 25 2006 @ 03:52 PM EDT
> If GPLv2 had the right balance, Tivo couldn't happen. But it did,
> and it needs fixing. You feel the only freedom that matters is that
> you get code back. That is because you are a programmer. I am an
> end user, and Tivo is restricting *my* freedom
The whole Tivio argument is totally bogus, and nothing in the proposed
wording of the GPL v3 will make any difference for you as a user. It
will only reqire small changes to the hardware achieve the same and
still comply with the GPL v3.
As a designer you will loose some flexibility and it will require more
testing and a slightly longer time-to-market. But nothing really
dramatic, lots of embedded devices does it this way already.
Having the kernel in something like a soldered in one time programable
ROM, like old style BIOSes used to be. Making the possibly to upgrade
very limited and clearly voiding the varanty for those who do. The
kernel(in Tivio case the GPL bit) is only a small part of the device
and, the least interesting one to me as a user. And not the part
needing updates or bugfix regularly, or at all. At least it should be
if, the company employ anything close to competent designers.
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regards,
alexander.
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- Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "Ceterum censeo, GPLv3 esse delendam", David Kastrup, 2006/09/26
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- Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus' gang: "abandon the current GPLv3 process before it becomes too late", Keith Thompson, 2006/09/25
- Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus' gang: "abandon the current GPLv3 process before it becomes too late", David Kastrup, 2006/09/25
- Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus' gang: "abandon the current GPLv3 process before it becomes too late", Alexander Terekhov, 2006/09/25
- Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus' gang: "abandon the current GPLv3 process before it becomes too late", David Kastrup, 2006/09/25
- Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus' gang: "abandon the current GPLv3 process before it becomes too late", Alexander Terekhov, 2006/09/25