Re: [GNU-linux-libre] is this work-group still serving the community?

[bill-auger]

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:54:56 +0300 Jean wrote:
> Some issues should be FSDG related and considered very
> important, while other could be on sole discretion of distribution
> managers, such as inclusion of vendor lock-in software such as
> Telegram; as opinions vary between distribution managers.

it already is that way for non-issues (in reality,
vendor-lock-in is impossible with libre software) - issues like:
"is _this_ program libre or not?" are very relevant though, and
there should be one single conclusion across all so-called
"100% libre" distros, otherwise the very concept becomes diluted
- when distros disagree on such fundamental existential
questions, the integrity of the FSDG and the FSF/GNU are in
jeopardy, and the efforts of the FSDG work-group are in vain


* is vendor-lock-in an FSDG issue?

  no, the FSDG mentions nothing about it;
  so distros may handle that any way they choose


* does vendor-lock-in make a program "less than 100% libre"?

  thats an unfruitful question - the previous question is the
  significant one


* is this program licensed properly?
* is this license acceptable?
* does/should the FSDG explicitly forbid this program or license?

  these are clearly FSDG issues, each with an authoritative
  binary answer, which only the evidence and/or the FSF's lawyers
  can determine - if any distros disagree on such facts, at least
  one of them must be in error - to leave such a conflict
  stand, reduces the FSDG guidelines, from expectations to mere
  suggestions; so any conclusions drawn from it (eg: the FSF
  endorsement), is meritless