RE: [Devel] Re: Re: [Fonts]Another approach to text in X

[David Smith]

The problem unfortunately, is not with the legal people. Without such 
statements the US Government will not allow export of certain technologies. 
While I agree with your comments it will require a change of heart in the US 
congress to change these restrictions. This is unfortunately unlikely at 
present.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Vadim Plessky [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:45 PM
To: address@hidden; Alexander Gelfenbain; Markus Kuhn
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: [Devel] Re: Re: [Fonts]Another approach to text in X


On Wednesday 23 January 2002 04:11, Alexander Gelfenbain wrote:
|   I don't really know. This clause obviously came from our legal
| department.
|
|   AG

well, from my experience working for one distribution company in Russia: 
 I (as a representative of that company) always was signing similar clauses 
("equipment we sold to you will not be used in nuclear plants, or for 
developemtn weapons, etc.") together with yearly distribution contract.
HP (Hewlett-Packard) was in particular very causious with this, as well as 
SGI. Probably, Sun (and all other US-based companies) has similar 
restriction, and this is caused by US origin of the company. 
I also know that one of IBM partners here (in Russia) sold high-end RS/6000 
system to nuclear research labaratory, and IBM had finally to pay penalties 
in US because of this deal.

I believe all this is a heavy heritage of the Cold War, and if we want to 
move to the new world, where all people live in peace and in friendship, we 
need to stop putting such restriction on software, hardware, facilities, etc.
So, you should talk to legal people and get off these words out of final 
software release. Otherwise, it can't be used in Open-Source projects. 


|
|   On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 03:13:22PM +0000, Markus Kuhn wrote:
|   > Alexander Gelfenbain wrote on 2002-01-17 19:59 UTC:
|   > > I can confirm that the license ST will be released with is "BSD+"
|   > > which is standard BSD with the following clause:
|   > >
|   > >   * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or
|   > > indended * for use in the design, construction, operation or
|   > > maintenance of any * nuclear facility.
|   >
|   > Just curious: Was this a legal or political requirement?
|   >
|   > I'm not sure, high energy physics on the other side of the street from
|   > here will in practice be aware of such a strange restriction, once they
|   > get this package via the next SuSE or Solaris update on their office
|   > machines. They are in the profession of doing rather cruel things to
|   > atomic nuclei and design and run facilities to do so.
|   >
|   > > We are working on publicly releasing the docs and placing the source
|   > > code on sourceforge or some other public CVS server. Please stay
|   > > tuned.
|   >
|   > I'm very much looking forward to seeing it.
|   >
|   > Markus

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