Re: A Zine/Newsletter for ELPA

[Eduardo Ochs]

I'm interested!
I want to help, but I am a weirdo who uses weird tools...
I'll have to learn the, aham, "normal" tools to be able to help.
What do you think about brainstorming by IRC?
  Cheers,
     Eduardo Ochs
     http://angg.twu.net/#eev

On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 07:16, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> Sacha Chua <sacha@sachachua.com> writes:
>
> >> but also commented on and "reviewed".  This seems to suggest a review
> >> site.  (A quick web search suggests that there are frameworks out
> >> there to facilitate creating such sites.)  That said, posting
> >> opinions seems of low value and rarely actionable (see below).
> >
> > Prot does a great job of writing blog posts and often making videos about
> > his new packages, which are usually posted to GNU ELPA. I link to these in
> > Emacs News, and they'll probably come up in searches as well. I notice that
> > interesting new packages tend to get picked up in blog posts and Reddit
> > threads in the weeks after the packages are published. I currently don't
> > have the time to summarize posts beyond quick links, but perhaps someone
> > would like to do a monthly round up like the way This Month in Org does?
>
> This is totally understandable, but yes something like "This Month in
> Org" would be good reference.
>
> >> Perhaps also a place where people can post ideas for packages
> >> This is a conversation.  Would not a mailing list suffice.  What is
> >> wrong with help-gnu-emacs?
>
> Nothing is wrong with it, it is just that there are plenty of people who
> don't know or don't follow it in detail.
>
> > I sometimes see conversations like that grow out of mailing lists or
> > web-based forums like Reddit. Ideas are pretty easy to float, though, and
> > it's hard to match them up with a person with the same itch. It seems to
> > work out better when people share what they've figured out so far, then
> > other people say they want something like that too, and then the code gets
> > turned into a package.
>
> >> or where abandoned packages can find new maintainers.
> >> How would this relate to https://github.com/emacsattic?
>
> That is for packages that have lost a maintainer, right?  So the package
> must have gone on without any maintenance for long enough for someone
> reviewing patches and fixing issues like new warnings or the usage of
> deprecated functions.  I was thinking about a place where a maintainer
> could announce that they don't have the interest or the time to attend
> to a package, so that a replacement could been found sooner.
>
> > When there's an announcement, I usually put it in a Help Wanted section at
> > the start of Emacs News.
>
> I did not know that you do that, in that case this specific idea is
> superfluous.
>
> >> I am very impressed with Eli's leadership of emacs development.
> >
> > Eli is awesome!
>
> 1+
>
> >> More immediately, look at his effort to drive toward better
> >> abstraction and unification of the existing find-file and
> >> find-sibling-file with Damien Cassou's pending related-files.  This is
> >> exactly the sort of effort I would hope to support.  I see such
> >> activities as curation.  Thus I could imagine an emacs-curate mailing
> >> list.  I would be happy to subscribe.
> >
> > Andres Ramirez has been sending me links to interesting emacs-devel
> > messages for possible inclusion in Emacs News. I'd love to get other
> > people's links and notes as well. I read emacs-devel on a very cursory
> > level (mostly looking at subjects and what Eli replies :) ), so extra
> > context would be great!
>
> I didn't know this either, I will keep this in mind.  If there are
> interesting bug reports, would you be interested in my notifying you?
>