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Re: New try at multi-lingual export to latex/pdf using pdflatex and babe


From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
Subject: Re: New try at multi-lingual export to latex/pdf using pdflatex and babel
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 07:47:05 +0100

PS: This is a very limited example. It would be nice to have more control on fontenc. AFAIK there is not alphabeta for cyrillic encodings and typesetting 'War and Peace' with its passages in French embedded in the Russian text is sort of a headache ;-)

/PA

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 07:30, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Juan Manuel,

you are absolutely right. There are many things that should improve in the LaTeX exporter and simplifying language treatment is one of them. What I show in my example is how to circumvent all the limitations in the exporter and give a working example for people who need it. 

 Adding AUTO to latex_class_options would be extremely helpful, since then you can load babel indicating the main language only and even avoid the PassOptions and can live with \usepackage{alphabeta} only.
This is a MWE for mixing German and Greek which I use to compare with what org-mode generates:

---cut---
\documentclass[greek,ngerman]{scrartcl}
%% \documentclass[greek,ngerman]{scrreprt}
%% \documentclass[greek,ngerman]{scrbook}
%% \documentclass[greek,ngerman]{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
%% \PassOptionsToPackage{main=ngerman}{babel}
\usepackage{alphabeta}

\begin{document}
Ach, unsere Freunde die Griechen: \textgreek{νους} (mit \verb|\textgreek{}|).\par
Ach, unsere Freunde die Griechen: νους (direkt im Text).
\end{document}
---cut---
The commented document classes are all I had the time to test.

Best, /PA


On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 at 18:47, Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> wrote:
Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes:

> +#+begin_example
> +,#+latex_class_options: [greek,spanish,oneside]
> +,#+language: es
> +,#+latex_header: \PassOptionsToPackage{main=spanish}{babel}
> +,#+latex_header: \usepackage{alphabeta} % to support greek script
> +#+end_example

I think this example doesn't take advantage of the AUTO facility, which
is what the section is about. Btw, maybe it would be nice to extend ''AUTO'' to
latex_class_options and \PassOptionsToPackage? Something like:

#+latex_class_options: [greek,AUTO,oneside]
#+language: es
...

However, I would only find the \PassOptionsToPackage command useful in
classes that already load babel with a main language. From Org, using
just pdfTeX, I think it would be simpler:

#+language: es
#+latex_header: \usepackage[greek,AUTO]{babel}
#+latex_header: \usepackage{alphabeta} % to support greek script

or this variant, using babelprovide and an INI file:

#+language: es
#+latex_header: \usepackage[greek]{babel}
#+latex_header: \babelprovide[import,main]{AUTO}
#+latex_header: \usepackage{alphabeta}

Best regards,

Juan Manuel




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