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Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs
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Andrea Corallo |
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Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs |
Date: |
Sat, 19 Sep 2020 19:31:59 +0000 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) |
ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes:
> > I, for one, would be happy to have a one-click option to set a bunch
> > of reasonable defaults whenever I start Emacs on a new device.
> >
> > And using the splash screen, that exact possibility is also there. So
> > nothing is lost.
>
> Yes, something is lost. No matter how you go about doing it, it is
> clear that it will be significantly less visible. That's the entire
> reason why you are arguing for it, if I understand correctly.
>
> What is lost exactly? You have the _exact_ same information, plus
> some (that of a on-click setup). Having a special new-user dialog
> would be a loss in information since it would hide the splash screen
> which provides valuable information for new and old users alike.
>
> If users don't read the normal splash screen, there is no reason to
> expect them to look at another "setup screen".
I suspect they probably don't read it because there is too much
information already, adding more would just make it worst.
> I claim that opening Emacs on new accounts with no .emacs will be
> infrequent for most users.
>
> Just today I accessed four different machines where I had never logged
> in (mainly for development stuff, where the machines run different
> operating systems, often new VMs setup for whatever). Sometimes it is
> accessing the machine as root, sometimes it is as my self.
Which _exact_ part of the spash screen have you used in this process?
How this proposed menu would have made harder your job today?
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, (continued)
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Thibaut Verron, 2020/09/17
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/17
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Stefan Kangas, 2020/09/18
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/18
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Thibaut Verron, 2020/09/18
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/18
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Andrea Corallo, 2020/09/19
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/19
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Stefan Kangas, 2020/09/19
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/19
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs,
Andrea Corallo <=
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/19
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Andrea Corallo, 2020/09/19
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/20
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Ergus, 2020/09/20
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/20
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Ergus, 2020/09/20
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Jean Louis, 2020/09/22
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Ergus, 2020/09/22
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Jean Louis, 2020/09/22
- Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs, Colin Baxter, 2020/09/22