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Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusion
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have) |
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Fri, 11 Sep 2020 21:43:09 +0300 |
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:00:41 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
> cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > How would they even understand the doc strings without knowing what's a
> > buffer and what's a window? We have the Glossary section in the manual,
> > for that very reason.
>
> Again my point of view is: what are the most essential things that a user
> needs to know to use Emacs if we have no more than three minutes? The
> point is to create a minimal configuration wizard / guided tour to
> introduce them to the most essential things and help them to create a
> minimal configuration with which they would feel "at home", instead of
> having the "this is weird" feeling.
That is a very different goal from that of our tutorial (or any good
tutorial, IMO). A tutorial should present the important workings of
the tool it describes, which includes all the basic operations and
ideas.
A user who has no more than 3 minutes can just start typing and use
the menus for the rest. I believe Emacs supports all the features
such a user can expect: cursor motion with arrows and PageUp/PageDown,
text insertion and deletion, saving via the menus, etc.
But if you think such "3-minute users" need a document to get them
started, by all means, write such a document. It is not what the
tutorial attempts to do, though.
> You mention "doc strings", but why on earth would a user who just started
> using Emacs read doc strings?
To learn more about Emacs, of course.
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), (continued)
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Robert Pluim, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Emanuel Berg, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Robert Pluim, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Emanuel Berg, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have),
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- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Ergus, 2020/09/12
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- FW: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Drew Adams, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Göktuğ Kayaalp, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Emanuel Berg, 2020/09/11
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Praharsh Suryadevara, 2020/09/11
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