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Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory
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Amin Bandali |
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Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory |
Date: |
Wed, 19 Aug 2020 09:59:41 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
tomas@tuxteam.de writes:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 01:03:51AM -0400, Amin Bandali wrote:
>> Richard Stallman writes:
>>
>> > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
>> > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
>> > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>> >
>> > > Would it not be better to follow the freedesktop spec?
>> > >
>> > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html
>> >
>> > Concretely, what change would that mean in Emacs?
>>
>> In short, the approach that I proposed divides up `user-emacs-directory'
>> into multiple subdirectories and keeps `user-emacs-directory' as the
>> all-in-one source of a user's Emacs files, while the XDG Base Directory
>> approach as suggested by Gunnar would imply keeping only configuration
>> files in `user-emacs-directory', and moving data and cache files to
>> "$XDG_DATA_HOME/emacs/" and "$XDG_CACHE_HOME/emacs/" respectively, where
>> 'XDG_DATA_HOME' defaults to "~/.local/share" and 'XDG_CACHE_HOME' to
>> "~/.cache".
>
> I've now read the freedesktop thing. If you ask me: please make that
> optional. I have none of those $XDG_* env vars set, and I have nothing
> of relevance in .local.
>
> Cheers
> - t
Reading this, another con of the XDG Base Directory approach just
occurred to me:
As of now, the XDG support added in Emacs 27 for the location of
`user-emacs-directory' is completely optional: if "~/.emacs.d/" exists,
"$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs/" won't be used at all. And some people seem to
quite dislike the XDG approach. So, basing this change upon that, users
who choose not to use "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs/" will inevitably be opted
out of this cleaning up of their Emacs directory. I'd personally like
to have my `user-emacs-directory' be clean, even if I choose to use
"~/.emacs.d/" and not "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs/". So, another reason for
me to prefer my original proposal of diving `user-emacs-directory' up
into subdirectories, regardless of whether or not the user uses
"$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs/".
Thoughts?
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- Re: A cache directory?, (continued)
- Re: A cache directory?, Yuri Khan, 2020/08/16
- Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory (was: A cache directory?), Amin Bandali, 2020/08/16
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory (was: A cache directory?), Richard Stallman, 2020/08/18
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Gunnar Horrigmo, 2020/08/18
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Gunnar Horrigmo, 2020/08/18
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Richard Stallman, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Amin Bandali, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, tomas, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory,
Amin Bandali <=
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, tomas, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, noah swainland, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, David De La Harpe Golden, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, tomas, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Yuan Fu, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Stefan Monnier, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Stefan Monnier, 2020/08/19
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Andreas Schwab, 2020/08/20
- Re: Cleaning up and structuring user-emacs-directory, Stefan Monnier, 2020/08/20