bug#62750: closed (29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade')

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'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade'
has caused the debbugs.gnu.org bug report #62750,
regarding 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be 
called '*-upgrade'
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> 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade'
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> Mon, 10 Apr 2023 07:53:52 -0500
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> Hi,
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> Browsing the NEWS file for the first Emacs 29 pretest, I was glad to see
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>     *** New command 'package-update'.
>     This command allows you to upgrade packages without using 'M-x
>     list-packages'.
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>     *** New command 'package-update-all'.
>     This command allows updating all packages without any queries.
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> But, IMHO, these commands should be named 'package-upgrade' and
> 'package-upgrade-all'.
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> In my experience in GNU/Linux systems and other software, the verb
> "update" is commonly used to refer to updating the list of available
> packages and their versions without changing the installed versions of
> packages (e.g. in Debian, "apt update"), while the verb "upgrade" is
> used to refer to actually installing newer versions of packages
> (e.g. "apt upgrade", or GNU Guix's "guix upgrade").  This terminology 
> mirrors the inverse, i.e. "downgrading"; it's not said that packages are 
> "downdated" or "backdated."
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> Even the first NEWS entry seems to suggest this conflation, as it says,
> "This command allows you to upgrade packages...".
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> If it's not too late to make this change, I think it would be
> worthwhile, as I think it would help prevent confusion for many users.
> OTOH, if Emacs 29 is released with "update packages" meaning "to upgrade
> packages to newer versions", we may be stuck with this confusing
> language for a long time.
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> Thanks for your consideration, and for your work on Emacs.
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> On 10/04/2023 15:53, Adam Porter wrote:
> > But, IMHO, these commands should be named 'package-upgrade' and
> > 'package-upgrade-all'.
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> They have now been renamed (with Eli's blessing in another bug's 
> thread). Without compatibility aliases.
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> Functions inside package-vc.el have been renamed too.
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> Thanks everybody! Closing.
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