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documentation of overlays-at is confusing


From: Joe Wells
Subject: documentation of overlays-at is confusing
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:10:53 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux)

The documentation of the overlays-at function says:

  Return a list of the overlays that contain position pos.

This is unclear on what is meant by “contain position pos”.  A
straightforward reading of this would lead one to believe that an
overlay that begins or ends at pos would “contain pos”.

However, it seems that the actual behavior is that it returns overlays
which contain the _character_at_pos_.  For example, evaluating the
following expression returns nil:

  (let ((buf (get-buffer-create "foo")))
    (with-current-buffer buf
      (display-buffer buf)
      (erase-buffer)
      (dolist (o (overlays-in (point-min) (point-max)))
        (delete-overlay o))
      (make-overlay (point-min) (point-min))
      (overlays-at (point-min))))

The confusion is between the notion of positions that are beginnings
and endings of pieces of text and positions of characters in text.
These are two distinct notions of “position”.

It would be useful if the documentation were clarified on this point.

I hope this report is helpful.

Joe

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