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Re: string substitution broken since 5.2


From: Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev
Subject: Re: string substitution broken since 5.2
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 20:11:29 +0100

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022, 19:42 Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu> wrote:

> On 11/4/22 12:22 PM, Alex fxmbsw7 Ratchev wrote:
>
> > what on yours i ask , o i see now , 4.2 ..
> > i quote right in ${ // - to me , preserved quotes are • an invalid youth
> > bug to be replaced with better by bash.c changes
> > which it seemfully did
>
> The question is, as always, tradeoffs. Do you fix bugs or not? Do you make
> the behavior more consistent across operations, even if incompatibilities
> (as above) result? Do you tighten up behavior where previous versions were
> too permissive, even if people will have to change their code as a result,
> or not? Do you introduce new features, or not? Do you make things opt-in,
> or opt-out? The answers are not always the same.
>

i d ask me one other .. asking where 'the specific' s place is , to code it
there , where it belongs

Greg, for example, puts a lot of value in being able to use the same code
> from bash-4.2, which was released in 2010, through the current version.
> That's the tradeoff he's willing to make when answering these questions.
>

im a poor invalid-rent in swiss assed , tech++ privateer
to me only newest versions count ( preferabily containing feature addments )

to me as pro bash coder ( i sitted and learned and teachen further by
interactive computer chats ( mostly irc ) ) for years
.. to me , knowing all the bugs bash has over some time , makes me have big
anti reasons to use old bashes

i mean its one to support old
but , why does that old exist
redhat 5 6 7
they cant update ? or use extra , old softwre , to exploit flaws in sw
.. to support such .. no me man , not for me

i mean i got clauses here and there , in my coding freelance ing , one is
'pref. updated debian to run' - that is debian all public short tree s ,
not just useless 'stable' - and i d put it on as sometimes

i try to say , .. stuff is incomplete , and if fixes dont come , just as no
good as always it is
just as ppl support 4.2 i 'only newest'


greg did great examples btw

This was the entire rationale for the compatibility mode in the first
> place: if you want things as they were before, set the appropriate
> compatibility variable. The same is true of features controlled by shell
> options.


Backwards compatibility is important, and I put a lot of effort into it.
> But I nudge things forward when I think it's warranted. As you've seen,
> there's always spirited disagreement.
>

it s a vital work for you , ye
i can just say , changing quotes to be interpreted is imo vital too :p i
mean done correctly better now than before

when , you have smth , like sh or bash , or non computer stuff
it takes , its known-to-be , material-beeing
which will in time need changes to be done to it

hm hm , greets , x

-- 
> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>                  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>
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