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Re: [Xlog-discussion] Log as diary

From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Log as diary
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:50:07 -0800

Yes on all points. XDIF is a more extensible format than ADIF and can be converted to ADIF with a simple transformation and it can be converted to weblog format with a simple transformation. it can be converted to Cabrillo with a simple transformation. It could be used to keep the log and make us all happy. XDIF can be stored in a single file for a personal log, a Berkeley DB with XML support for a DXPedition, an eXist Java DB, or a high-performance db such as Monet (from CWI, where Python came from) for a web-sized log site.

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:58 am, Martin Ewing AA6E wrote:

An XDIF approach is very interesting, and seems very powerful. (I note that your formalized QSO narrative sounds a lot like the genealogical books I sometimes work with. Lots of info, very little style! :-)

Really, all I wanted was to interpolate text notes in my station log. The intention is not to blog it to the world -- or even to myself. (Although I find I am using Zim on my desktop for personal wiki-ing. Very neat.) It seems that all the machinery is there in apps like xlog, but one might want a different data view/report option and possibly a new non-qso input dialog.

Conventional logging apps seem to grow out of contesting needs historically, and they're not trying to fully emulate the way I (for one) used my paper log.

73, Martin AA6E

Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
Sounds like you want what I want, a combination ham log/web log.

I use a small client to generate weblog entries and publish them using APP to a weblog, and use microformats to mark up the resulting entries. The
microformat matches XDIF; i.e.,
 <div class="qso"><a href="http://www.qrz.com/callsign/AA6E"; class="om
control callsign">AA6E</a> called me on <span class="band">20M</span>
<span class="mode">CW</span> and I gave him <span class="tx
rst">599</span> for his <span class="om equipment rig">TenTec
Omni</span></div> and he sent <span class="rx rst">559C</span> for my
<span class="my equipment rig">Tuna Tin Two</span> at <span class="my
equipment power">250mW</span>.

I can generate this from a wiki-like markup:
QRZ:AA6E called me on BAND:20M MODE:CW and I gave him TXRST:599 for his
OMRIG:{TenTec Omni} and he sent TXRST:559C for my RIG:{Tuna Tin Two} at

I'd like to take a direct mapping from XDIF and generate chatty reports
like the above, plus include other text I generate from QSO notes, but at
the moment I just type the above wiki-like markup.

Since it's a mapping from the XDIF tags, XDIF support would help this as
you could transform the XDIF entries directly to ATOM with the embedded
XHTML markup and the microformat attributes.

Microformats are useful because (the theory goes) a search engine could
find the QSO records that way. There are some for address book and resume
searches, but none for XDIF microformat QSO records, hi hi.


Here's a small suggestion.  In my old written logs, I would enter
various non-operating information: changes in antennas, new equipment,
mailing batches of QSL cards, propagation notes, and what-not.

I don't see any facility for that in any logging software I've used,
including xlog - everything is a 'contact'.

It would be nice to have a "comment" record not related to a contact.
Text with no special formatting, except maybe a date field.

I see that I can make a QSO entry with remarks but no call sign.  I
suppose that's OK as far as the database is concerned, but it doesn't
get displayed well -- off the right of my screen, usually.  Would a
no-call record screw up ADI exchanges?

73, Martin AA6E

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