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+# Simplified Chinese translation of http://www.gnu.org/gnu/byte-interview.html
+# Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+# This file is distributed under the same license as the original article.
+# Wensheng Xie <address@hidden>, 2018.
+#
+msgid ""
+msgstr ""
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+"PO-Revision-Date: 2018-07-01 17:45+0800\n"
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid "<strong>BYTE</strong>: Do you collect their bug fixes?"
+msgstr "<strong>BYTE</strong>ï¼šä½ æ˜¯å¦æ”¶é›†ä»–ä»¬çš„é—®é¢˜ä¿®å¤ï¼Ÿ"
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+"<strong>Stallman</strong>: Well, they send them to me.  I asked all the "
+"people who wanted to be listed to promise that they would never ask any of "
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid ""
+"<strong>BYTE</strong>: So you can't have people competing to provide support "
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+msgstr ""
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+"understanding more of the common problems, or knowing better how to explain "
+"to you what you should do.  These are all ways they can compete.  They can "
+"try to do better, but they cannot actively impede their competitors."
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+"victims of accidents.  And consider all the time that people put into "
+"hustling to take business away from their competition.  Think of the pens "
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+"phenomenon.  People find ways of getting money by impeding society.  Once "
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+"ultimately make the difference between the utopia in which nobody really has "
+"to work for a living because it's all done by robots and a world just like "
+"ours where everyone spends much time replicating what the next fellow is "
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+"wrote and some that other people wrote.  Lots of people send in $150 for GNU "
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+"long as I can go on making a living by consulting I think that's the best "
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