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+# Russian translation of
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/copyright-versus-community-2000.html
+# Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+# This file is distributed under the same license as the original article.
+# Ineiev <address@hidden>, 2015
+# this translation lacks appropriate review
+#
+msgid ""
+msgstr ""
+"Project-Id-Version: copyright-versus-community-2000.html\n"
+"POT-Creation-Date: 2014-04-05 00:02+0000\n"
+"PO-Revision-Date: 2015-08-19 17:51+0000\n"
+"Last-Translator: Ineiev <address@hidden>\n"
+"Language-Team: Russian <address@hidden>\n"
+"Language: ru\n"
+"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
+"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
+"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
+
+#. type: Content of: <title>
+msgid ""
+"Copyright versus Community in the Age of Computer Networks - GNU Project - "
+"Free Software Foundation"
+msgstr ""
+"ÐвÑоÑÑкое пÑаво и ÑообÑеÑÑво в век
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+"Ñвободного пÑогÑаммного обеÑпеÑениÑ"
+
+#. type: Content of: <h2>
+msgid "Copyright versus Community in the Age of Computer Networks (2000)"
+msgstr "ÐвÑоÑÑкое пÑаво и ÑообÑеÑÑво в век
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+
+#. type: Content of: <blockquote><p>
+msgid ""
+"This is a transcription from an audio recording, prepared by Douglas "
+"Carnall, July 2000."
+msgstr ""
+"ÐÑÐ¾Ñ ÑекÑÑ Ð¿Ð¾Ð´Ð³Ð¾Ñовлен по звÑкозапиÑи
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+"года."
+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid ""
+"<em> Mr Stallman arrives a few minutes after the appointed hour of "
+"commencement of his talk to address a hushed and respectful audience. He "
+"speaks with great precision and almost no hesitation in a pronounced Boston "
+"accent.</em>"
+msgstr ""
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+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+msgstr "<b>РС</b>. ÐÑо ÑаÑÑÑиÑано на ÑеÑ
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+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid ""
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+msgstr "Я не ноÑÑ Ñдавок, Ñак ÑÑо ÑÑо некÑда
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+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid "<em>[clips it to his T-shirt]</em>"
+msgstr "<em>[веÑÐ°ÐµÑ Ð½Ð° ÑÐ²Ð¾Ñ ÑÑÑболкÑ]</em>"
+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid "<strong>Me</strong>: Are you OK with the recording?"
+msgstr "<b>Я</b>. ÐÐ°Ñ Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶Ð½Ð¾ запиÑÑваÑÑ?"
+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid ""
+"<strong>RMS</strong>: Yes! <em>[testy]</em> How many people have to ask me?"
+msgstr "<b>РС</b> Ðа! СколÑко Ñеловек Ñ
оÑÑÑ
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+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+msgstr "Так воÑ, ÑÐµÐ³Ð¾Ð´Ð½Ñ Ñ Ð¼ÐµÐ½Ñ Ð½Ð°Ð¼ÐµÑаеÑÑÑ
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+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid "<em>[long pause]</em>"
+msgstr "<em>[Ð´Ð¾Ð»Ð³Ð°Ñ Ð¿Ð°Ñза]</em>"
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+msgstr "<em>[ÑказÑÐ²Ð°ÐµÑ Ð½Ð° микÑоÑон]</em>"
+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid "What can I do?"
+msgstr "ЧÑо мне делаÑÑ?"
+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+msgstr "ÐоÑмоÑÑим... ÑегÑлÑÑоÑа гÑомкоÑÑи
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+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+#. type: Content of: <p>
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+msgstr "Ñак вÑоде Ð±Ñ Ð»ÑÑÑе"
+
+#. type: Content of: <p>
+msgid ""
+"OK. Copyright versus community in the age of computer networks. The "
+"principles of ethics can't change. They are the same for all situations, "
+"but to apply them to any question or situation you have to look at the facts "
+"of the situation to compare alternatives, you have to see what their "
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+"choices, so it can make a difference for the outcome of the question, and "
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+"changes in technology have affected the ethical factors that weigh on "
+"decisions about copyright law and change the right policy for society."
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+#. translations. However, we are not exempt from imperfection.
+#. Please send your comments and general suggestions in this regard
+#. to <a href="mailto:address@hidden">
+#. <address@hidden></a>.</p>
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+msgstr "Copyright © 2001, 2007, 2014, 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc."
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+#. type: Content of: <div><p>
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+#. timestamp start
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+msgid "Updated:"
+msgstr "Ðбновлено:"
- www/philosophy/po copyright-versus-community-20...,
Pavel Kharitonov <=