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Re: [Texmacs-dev] alpha-transparency


From: Norbert Nemec
Subject: Re: [Texmacs-dev] alpha-transparency
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:59:34 +0100
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I'm not sure whether Qt is considered "stable" enough. But then - the number of nuissances in the X11 GUI is certainly larger than the number of bugs in the Qt GUI.

I don't see any reason to use Qt exclusively. There are several GUIs in different states of maturity that are worth keeping. It is only X11 that is so limited that I would suggest fading it out.


On 23/07/10 13:44, Alvaro Tejero Cantero wrote:
Is there any reason not to use the QT GUI everywhere? Any architecture
that supports X11 but not QT?

-รก.



On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:33, Norbert Nemec<address@hidden>  wrote:
Hi there,

it was mentioned before that alpha-transparency should be addressed in
TeXmacs. Apart from X11, all other GUIs should support this in a
straightforward way. Is there any idea, how it could be added to the GUI
abstraction in the cleanest way so that TeXmacs graphics could begin making
use of it?

Specifically, it would be essential for the table border hints that I
attempted to implement a while ago. Currently, the hints are opaque
light-gray and get in the way for equations where the content often extends
over the cell boundaries. Putting the hints in the background behind the
content was not a solution either, because nested tables would then cover
the hints of inner tables by the background color of outer tables.

The most difficult issue for extending the GUI abstraction seems to be a
fallback solution for the X11 GUI and possibly other that do not offer alpha
transparency. Once alpha transparency is used for anything essential in
TeXmacs, these GUIs would become unusable.

Is it time to drop the X11 GUI? Or at least accept that future versions will
make it less and less usable as alpha transparency is being used for more
and more features in TeXmacs? It could still be included as legacy code, but
I believe it will slow down the development of TeXmacs in general if every
piece of code is restricted to the limitations of the X11 GUI.

Greetings,
Norbert

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