Re: [Swftools-common] highlight links (not on hover)

[Douglas Miller]

Just adding these posts to the mailing list, I forgot to hit reply all and was only communicating with Matt.

Matt,

I really like the looks of your flip viewer. I've been
using a different one but am having problems with external links when
using it. I was wondering how well yours worked with external links in
the swf. I was also wondering how the viewer managed pages loaded into
memory and buffering of future pages. One major limitation I have seen
in these viewers is that they hold all the loaded pages in memory which
can become a big hog on larger magazines. I have also found that not
many viewers preload the next couple of pages which would increase user
experience. One glitch I did notice in your viewer is that the page
loses the 'crease' shadow when the page flipping effect starts.

I also have a few suggestions from my experiences:

1) Add buttons to allow the user to quickly jump to the first and last pages.
2)
The thumnal view feature is a bit counter intuitive to use in my
opinion. The whole view changes when I move my mouse up or down. I
would remove the auto scroll feature and add a slider bar on the right.
I also found the thumbs up icon to be misleading as I had no idea what
it was supposed to do.
3) I find the magnifying glass to be distracting. I would not use it
there and instead add a control button that enabled zoom mode. I just
don't like that zoom mode is enabled automatically.
4) Add full screen capability to both the viewer and the page. An example of what I'm referring to can be seen on http://westindiespublishing.com/index.php/magazines?id=18&view=single
The viewer can go fullscreen but the page size is fixed (desired) but
you can also click the filled in magnifying glass on the top toolbar to
view the page in fullscreen mode inside of the viewer.
5) Allow specifying background images to use in a xml file to achieve similar results as the above example shows with the sand.

As I said before, this is a really great implementation of a flip viewer. I look forward to seeing more!

-Doug

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM, matt cline <address@hidden> wrote:

Thanks for hijacking my thread.  Roger, since you've been so helpful to me, here are two players I'll be releasing open source shortly.  One is single frame one is flip, both are load on demand.

http://www.pdf2xml.com/demo/display-magazine.php
http://www.pdf2xml.com/demo/flip/sample.html

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Chris Pugh <address@hidden> wrote:

You know what I meant ... you come up with the idea, and you post the
source code!
be proactive, just like you have been with the wiki. ;o)

As to viewers that are already out there, well the source code for
many of them is
available to all who care to look.   Have you downloaded and started on one yet?
Cris, well I'm sure he knows exactly what you want to do with his viewer!

Oh, and ever so coincidentally,  please don't use CAPS, there's a good
chap.  I'm not deaf
you know.  Save that, excitable chap that you are Roger,  for your
mobile phone conversations.


Chris. [ Exeunt Stage Right ]

PS  Way off topic, and verging into the jocular and ribald no less!
Enough List noise I think, yes?  ;o)

2009/1/28 Roger Chinchilla <address@hidden>:
> Why don't I start my own viewer and you recommend me to "copy/reinvent" ones
> that are already out there.....well....thats exactly what I am trying to do
> with Rusu's viewer....HELLO!!
>
> Roger
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Chris Pugh <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Likely story!  ( Don't you just 'hate' people who are so busy on their
>> mobile phone,
>> that they can't be bothered to communicate properly? )  :o).
>>
>> .. and why don't you start you *own* viewer Roger?  There are so many out
>> there
>> to copy/reinvent!
>>
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> 2009/1/28 Roger Chinchilla <address@hidden>:
>> > Sorry I was on my mobile phone and forgot to put a (wink) or something.
>> > By
>> > the way the Rusu Viewer is looking really good. Anyone know when it will
>> > be
>> > Open Source?
>> >
>> > Roger
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Chris Pugh <address@hidden>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> *I* didn't.  ( In fact, I'd have been very surprised indeed if you'd
>> >> even tried  doing that! ) But maybe you should have added  a
>> >> qualifier, as in '(tic)' or ';o)' somewhere Roger??
>> >>
>> >> On the contrary, pushing your thunbs firmly up on the base of the brow
>> >> bone under the top of the eye socket ( the
>> >> 'supraorbital foramen' I think ),  is supposed to help with stress and
>> >> relief of migraine.  Just watch they don't slip .. ;o)
>> >>
>> >> Chris.
>> >>
>> >> >2009/1/28 Roger Chinchilla <address@hidden>:
>> >> > I just kidding about the holding the finger to your eyes to make the
>> >> > links
>> >> > pop out. Please don't take it the wrong way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Roger
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Chris Pugh <address@hidden>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As I said, links *ARE* buttons.  However, you didn't state you were
>> >> >> using pdf2swf..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The only command that I know of for an on the fly change, is,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   pdf2swf -v -s linkcolor= <RRGGBBAA>  file.pdf  { where linkcolor
>> >> >> value is in Hex ).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> but this only affects the background color of the link itself, on
>> >> >> hover, and is not
>> >> >> permanent   ( option is sort of misleading  really).  Looks like
>> >> >> routine could be
>> >> >> opatched to produce the reverse effect, or else, it's a two stage
>> >> >> process.  Mattias?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2009/1/28 Matt Cline <address@hidden>:
>> >> >> > Hi chris,
>> >> >> > Thank you for your input.  I don't need an example of manipulating
>> >> >> > buttons
>> >> >> > but do need an example of how to include that manipulation for
>> >> >> > every
>> >> >> > link on
>> >> >> > a page during pdf2swf sad generation.
>> >> >> > Thank you
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Chris Pugh <address@hidden>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Matt,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A link is simply a button made up of text.  Therefore whatever
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> do with the attributes of a button you can also do with a 'link',
>> >> >> >> i.e. change almost everything about it's appearance, and
>> >> >> >> function.
>> >> >> >> Do you need an example?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Incidentally, I hope Roger's post was intended to be well tic.
>> >> >> >>  It
>> >> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> reminiscent of that old non-pc joke about how to make a Venitian
>> >> >> >> Blind!  Sooner him than I!! ;o)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Chris.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2009/1/27 Roger Chinchilla <address@hidden>:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Only way I know is these specials glasses I saw on amazon.com.
>> >> >> >>> They
>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> >> >>> good
>> >> >> >>> for you when you look at the screen a lot. Another way to make
>> >> >> >>> text
>> >> >> >>> stand
>> >> >> >>> out is, close your eyes, put pressure on it with your index
>> >> >> >>> finger
>> >> >> >>> for
>> >> >> >>> about
>> >> >> >>> 10 seconds, open your eyes and get really close to the screen.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Hope that helps,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Roger
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:26 PM, matt cline <address@hidden>
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Hello, is there a way to highlight links w/o having to hover
>> >> >> >>>> them
>> >> >> >>>> to
>> >> >> >>>> see
>> >> >> >>>> the highlights(so their easier to spot in the swfs)?  Thank
>> >> >> >>>> you.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
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