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Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic
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Russell Standish |
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Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic |
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Fri, 6 May 2005 10:29:59 +1000 |
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What's that got to do with no-one using parallel Java? Plenty of people
do parallel Fortran or parallel C/C++?
Amdahl's law is only a one dimension slice of the performance graph -
the real performance graph also includes an axis for problem
size. People typically increase their problem size as they use
faster/parallel computers. Consequently, Amdahl's law doesn't imply
parallel computers are useless (which was how it was first applied).
What I suspect is the biggest reason computational people have stayed
away from Java is the difficulty in linking to existing software
libraries written in C or Fortran (so I'm told). One of the _most_
important optimisation strategies is to link to a well tuned library
(eg Lapack or FFTW). I understand that Guava (the GNU Java compiler)
changes the picture somewhat, although people tend to stay away from
the GNU compiler for production code, as it tends to lag by a factor
of 2 of performance what the best commercial compilers can deliver. A
factor of 2 performance is a big difference when your codes run for 6
months or more!
Cheers
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 11:11:31AM -0600, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
> Russell Standish wrote:
>
> >>I would have thought RMI would have been a
> >>pretty handy feature, and I also believe there's a Java implementation
> >>of MPI, although I haven't used either myself.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Perhaps, but we don't see anyone using it.
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
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- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, (continued)
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/01
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/01
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/01
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/01
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, James Marshall, 2005/05/03
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/03
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/03
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, James Marshall, 2005/05/04
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/05
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/05
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic,
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- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/06
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/06
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, James Marshall, 2005/05/06
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/06
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/07
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Bill Northcott, 2005/05/07
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Russell Standish, 2005/05/07
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/07
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Paul Johnson, 2005/05/07
- Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Floating point arithmetic, Marcus G. Daniels, 2005/05/07