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Re: Re : Re: Funding StumpWM


From: Roland Everaert
Subject: Re: Re : Re: Funding StumpWM
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:29:20 +0000

Thank you for the clear answer.

I understand that in such situation, it can be to much trouble. On the other end, didn't any of you setup an account on liberapay or similar platform?

It could be a way to get around such impediment.

Roland Everaert
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Le mardi 23 mars 2021 à 01:42, David B <dbjergaard@gmail.com> a écrit :
There have been a few times when this request has come up.  The short answer is no.  The longer answer is there is no fair way to distribute funds.

Issues for bounty suffer from complicated problems where multiple developers contribute: how do you measure each individuals contribution? How do you deal with incremental solutions that don't fully implement the features but are 'good enough' for most cases.

General funding and prioritization of features suffers the same problem.  We have 3 core developers, and while I still manage the project and set priorities, I don't necessarily write code on a regular basis.  There is no obviously fair way to distribute money.

We appreciate the offer for monetary support but it just makes things more complicated than its worth.

David

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 5:49 AM Roland Everaert via <stumpwm-devel@nongnu.org> wrote:
I am not fond of the bountysource approach. Bounties can linger for year, because it is solely dependent on the will of someone to work on the task.

With the more conventional approach of funding the project, at least, the handling of feature addition can be organized and prioritized. This, IMHO, allows for a clear view of what to expect from the project.

Thats just my point of view

Happy new years to everybody and there family,

Roland Everaert
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Le vendredi 25 décembre 2020 à 5:01 PM, Elias Mårtenson <lokedhs@gmail.com> a écrit :
One alternative could be the approach taken by McCLIM where the money is set aside for rewards for specific work. Anyone can claim it who does the work, not just team members.

For example, a reward of some amount could be put for the implementation of Freetype support. Once the feature is merged the money is paid out. 

I can tell you that its not perfect though. There have been cases where someone claimed the reward but it was not paid out because the implementation wasn't good so it was never merged. That's some extra headache that one has to be prepared to deal with. 

Regards, 
Elias 

Den fre 25 dec. 2020 23:29Roland Everaert <r.everaert@protonmail.com> skrev:
I agree that the, "what to fund?" question, is important and the first three items you propose are good first candidates to me.

As for the inevitable infrastructure cost increase, I have to admit, I don't know how heavy or a burden it could be.

Roland Everaert
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Le vendredi 25 décembre 2020 à 4:19 PM, tychoish <garen@tychoish.com> a écrit :

> There's also a github sponsorship system that might be more easy
>
> and straight forward. I've been using StumpWM daily for 10 years
>
> and it's incredibly valuable to me and I would gladly give some
>
> dollars to the project.
>
> Having said that, I wounder what our goals would be? Regardless of
>
> our decision on "should we find a way to collect money for the
>
> project," it might be nice to have a conversation about what kinds
>
> of things we want to spend time (and maybe money) on, just
>
> thinking out loud, this might include things like:
>
> -   more automated tests and CI infrastructure.
> -   breaking apart the monolithic "stumpwm" package
> -   documentation/API references.
> -   pure CL wayland library (???)
> -   wayland support, (???).
> -   migrate mcclim for the modeline/menus
> -   really cool multi-head features (different X screens per-head,
>
>     plug-and-play integration, etc.)
> -   updating and modernizing contrib modules.
>
>     These are all kind of vague in my mind, and I don't know the
>
>     relative priority or interest in any of them. Maybe it makes sense
>
>     to have some kind of project meeting (IRC or audio/video) on some
>
>     cadence (quarterly? semi-annually?) to talk about
>
>     projects/priorities/etc. Aside from occasional emails and IRC, we
>
>     actually talk to eachother very infrequently.
>
>     Relatedly, I've been thinking about seeing if there was interest
>
>     in proposing that StumpWM become a Google Summer of Code project:
>
>     I've mentored a few interns for the Buildbot project in 2013 and
>
>     2014, and it's a fun program, and we'd both get dedicated
>
>     resources working on a project and also (at least historically,)
>
>     comes with some amount of compensation to projects themselves. I'm
>
>     not sure if we have enough time to get a 2021 application in, but
>
>     it might be a fun thing to do if other folks are into it too.
>
>     Stump is also a project with, I think, relatively little
>
>     organizational infrastructure, and it works pretty
>
>     well. Collecting dollars would push us into having more
>
>     infrastructure (bank accounts, leadership committees, etc.). Which
>
>     wouldn't be a bad thing, and there are organizations (Conservancy,
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>     SSPI, etc.) that can help with some of the details, but it isn't
>
>     "free", and is worth considering.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     sam
>
>     On Friday, December 25 2020, 08:14:40, Roland Everaert wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Maybe I have missed it, but I have found noway to donate to the
> >
> > project. Does any developer/maintainer of the project think
> >
> > about creating an account on platforms like patreon or liberapay
> >
> > for the project to gather some money to give allow them to
> >
> > dedicate some times and resources to the project, to implement
> >
> > particular features and subprojects?
> >
> > I would be more than happy and proud to be a recurring donator
> >
> > to a project, that, I think deserves it.
> >
> > So, using a well known meme to convey my request, "Shut up and
> >
> > take all my money" ;)
> >
> > Roland Everaert
> > ---------------
> >
> > Use the F.O.S.S., Luke
> >
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