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Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking
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Hendrik Visage |
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Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking |
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Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:05:23 +0200 |
> On 16 Aug 2019, at 22:45 , Stefan Claas <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> O.k. I understand your point, but what I like to say is that I or anybody
> else can download a dump without running a key server. While running a
> key server requires a dump, it would be really nice if dumps are only
> available to a (trusted) pool of operators, as long as the current SKS
> model is still available on the Internet.
Well… here you’ll have to define “trusted”… Am I (being a South African with
SKS servers in South Africa, France, Canada & Singapore) being trust worthy
for a GDPR? Which of my servers may or may not peer with each other as a side
note? Now if I load a dump in FRance, may I peer with my RSA server? or should
I load the dump in RSA and peer with my France server? If I receive a GDPR take
down, does it only apply to my server(s) in France, or what if my RSA servers
are providing a VPN/TOR endpoint via a FRance server, is that also under the
GDPR?
The fact that the dumps exist, ACROSS THE GLOBE, makes any GDPR related
discussion IMHO a very mute point once the data have entered the SKS server
network.
It’s like unseeing a naked photo of person… it’s just not “possible”.
I would echo what everybody should know and understand: a PUBLIC KEY is by
definition *PUBLIC*, NOTHING PRIVATE about it… BY DEFINITION.
SKS network contains *PUBLIC* keys. It’s purpose, is to PUBLICLY make your
communications, signed/etc. with the associated *private* key, by directed to
you and associated with you to proof that it was *you* that
signed/produced/etc. that piece of communication. That purpose would be to know
that the communication was not forged as you, and thus people can take that
piece of communications as being your words spoken and trusted as it was not
somebody else faked you. It is also a mechanism that you can receive
communications, meant only for your eyes (I meant *private* key :) )that nobody
else can decode (given they’ve not compromised your private key).
The fact that the SKS network had been and probably will still be
abused/DoSed/etc. we can’t deny, but once people becomes silly, as I see this
whole GDPR discussions have been, I have but one set of advice: Either you fix
it, or you get out of the SKS server network… let those that run the SKS
servers have the pains/legal battles/etc. when they are attacked by the GDPR
enforcers, we’ll fight that battle, no need to make our lives worse off if you
can’t add positive value…
Yours enjoying his pop-corn reading these debates
Hendrik
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- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, (continued)
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Andrew Gallagher, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Hendrik Visage, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, DevPGSV Pablo, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Todd Fleisher, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Andrew Gallagher, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking,
Hendrik Visage <=
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Ryan Hunt, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Hendrik Visage, 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking, Stefan Claas, 2019/08/16
- [Sks-devel] GDPR (equine corpse) (WAS: Re: The pool is shrinking), brent s., 2019/08/16
- Re: [Sks-devel] GDPR (equine corpse) (WAS: Re: The pool is shrinking), Robert J. Hansen, 2019/08/17
- Re: [Sks-devel] GDPR (equine corpse) (WAS: Re: The pool is shrinking), Stefan Claas, 2019/08/17
- Re: [Sks-devel] GDPR (equine corpse) (WAS: Re: The pool is shrinking), brent s., 2019/08/17
- Re: [Sks-devel] GDPR (equine corpse), Stefan Claas, 2019/08/17