Re: [Sks-devel] The pool is shrinking

[stuff]

Once again pointing out the obvious that everyone is avoiding.

The keyservers don't have any mechanisms as required by the GDPR to remove data.

So once again if you load up someone else's personal data with out permission 
the servers instantly break the law due to the lack of those mechanisms. This 
is the simplest one to point out, Among many other issues. There is no 
exemption to this one at all!!!

Hansen its 2019 not 1990 and you need to evolve your thinking beyond your own 
personal interests! Do you think the GDPR is a bad thing? Do you think people 
having the right to better privacy is bad? from your resent responses you 
obviously do, strange attitude considering your interest in privacy????

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>Its about pretty good privacy, not perfect privacy.. by design w/PGP and
>SKS, public keys are designed to be public, and not private.. in order to
>keep the private part secure, allowing people to arbitrary purge public
>data entirely undermines the entire thing.

And to Ryan, poor response! Also the world changes and laws change and peoples 
views of what is right and wrong change. And that's exactly what has happened 
especially in Europe! The sks keyservers where designed in the 1990s, its not 
1990 any more. People think differently about privacy now. Hagrid or Keybase 
have solved issues for a majority of people.

It does not undermine it at all, this model is broken and its being laughed at 
by the entire tech community. Oh and it was never resilient to government 
interference that was just a fallacy which has been push right into the spot 
light. a single person or group just bitched slapped the sks keyservers 
recently with an attack, all it takes is someone to persist with a real attack 
and those are gone! NO RELIABLITIY, NO RESILIANCE....NO USE!!

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The SKS Keyservers have brought a very bad light on GnuPG and other related 
projects, trust for most is low or gone in these projects, and people like 
Hansen and his approach to it has really not helped at all. Kristian meanwhile 
the maintainer remains quiet, not even making any attempts to suggest shutting 
down the servers or archiving the software.

The important Questions here for admins is :

Do you want to continue to:

1. Run broken and unreliable software?
2. Risk legal consequences?
3. be the laughing stock of modern security?

Kind regards

Yakamo


On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:41:53 +0200 (CEST)
Steffen Kaiser <address@hidden> wrote:

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> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Stefan Claas wrote:
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> > And has Mr. Rude then the right to freely distribute this data, without
> 
> "this data" => SKS stores private data, which are public by design and in 
> consens with the uploader, Art5 (1) a) and b)
> Those dumps are used to full fill the purpose, intended by the SKS network 
> and intended to be processed by the uploader
> The SKS servers fullfill the well-known purpose of making these data 
> available publically.
> 
> > protecting it, to the whole world? If that is the case then EU citizens
> > having 'business' with the US can do the same with US citizens data.
> 
> Yes, you, personally, can dump the *SKS* database and make it available 
> yourself as well.
> 
> - -- 
> Steffen Kaiser
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