Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] #savannah on irc.gnu.org

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

Can you try to contact address@hidden again and work to solve
this issue?  Continuing this dicussion here won't solve the issue.
Please CC me as well; I don't know TOR or use it, so I would be the
wrong person to try solve any issues.

   To have #savannah q officially on Freenode we would have to change
   again, [...]

That #savannah was moved was a mistake, lets fix that first since it
is simple.  Then lets work on fixing the TOR issue, as it stands,
Freenode supports TOR so `Freenode doesn't support TOR' is not a
reason to continuing the mistake.

   > Saying that Freenode is hostile towards TOR users is harsh, and
   > untrue.  Freenode does support TOR, it may be a bit of a fiddle
   > since it has been abused; but this is no different than it being
   > fiddly to access the GNU machines since people abused them and
   > now we have to use SSH.

   Bear in mind there was a reason to move from Freenode and it still
   applies at the best of my knowledge.  The problem has been just
   explained by Ted Smith [1] and the thread has been archived in [2].
   I think Sylvain contacted address@hidden personally; there is
   further information about the issue with Freenode in [3].

I have not seen these messages so I cannot say anything about their
content, could you please send me them?  I've seen Sylvain's document,
and showed it to a Freenode staffer, and he disagreed with some points
made there so we shouldn't assume that this is the current state of
things.

   > Personally, I'd like to see GNU hosting as IRC server.

   Excuse me, I don't understand what you mean.  Could you please
   elaborate?.

I meant that we run our own IRC server on a GNU machine.