Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] #savannah on irc.gnu.org

[Mario Castelan Castro]

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2011-03-02 for Michael J. Flickinger copy in
address@hidden thread "#savannah on irc.gnu.org".

> I'm not necessarily against what you're saying, but I look at this a
> little bit differently.  Freenode is the GNU project's official IRC
> network; hence, it makes sense to have the channel there...

Unless I'm missing something, in general the merits of the sites and
such don't come after GNU recommendations but rather the other way; the
GNU recommendations come after a proper evaluation of the sites and
such, and their alternatives; of course, the situation may, and does
change.

For this specific case, it follows than it's just convenient to have all
the IRC channels in the same IRC network, but this convenience shouldn't
be given more importance over other issues like user's privacy. The fact
Freenode is currently the official GNU IRC network don't means we can
ignore its problems.

> I think the real qualm you have is with freenode being the official
> GNU network.

We're missing the point here.  I'm going to suggest a change for the
official GNU IRC network, but that's an issue for *another* thread.

Just as a note, experience has convinced me than material which regards
person's attitude or opinion *rather than* the topic itself is
irrelevant and a hindrance to the resolution of the real issue.  I
always enjoy a kind chat about my opinions themselves but we should
distinguish and keep them separate.

>> If we move #savannah to GNU there would be people
>> who couldn't access to #savannah at all.

> Who, just wondering?  Bear in mind, Freenode does allow tor if you
> connect to their tor hidden node.

I think this one has been clarified by Ted Smith.

> Just curious, are you using TOR?

Yes, I'm running a inner relay and I sometimes also connect to services
by Tor, as need by the specific case of access.  For IRC I currently use
a direct connection.
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