Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] robots.txt disallows all spiders for mailing lists

[Yavor Doganov]

Noah Slater wrote:
> > Sylvain and Karl are not GNU sysadmins

> Where would be the proper place to take my concerns about this
> matter?

address@hidden

> Again, you have the wrong framing.
> 
> This isn't about making the archives Google friendly, it's about
> making them people friendly!

Right!  And we want to change the people in a way that they consider
software freedom important.  Changing the society is the ultimate goal
of the GNU project.

So I don't think my "frame" is wrong.  Maybe a bit harsh, and maybe a
route that only a few are willing to follow, but that doesn't mean
it's wrong and inappropriate.

I don't decide the policy of Savannah or the FSF-administered sites,
so you can relax...

> > I expect that users of GNU software read the supplementary
> > documentation
> 
> We cannot help users with wishful thinking.
> 
> What you expect and what happens in reality are very different.

Yeah.  It may also help if you don't resort to classic philosophy and
well-known proverbs as arguments.  Every proverb has a
counter-proverb, and I'm sure we both have better things to do than
citing counter-proverbs.

> Mailing lists are useful for much more than bug reporting.

I agree.  It would be nice if there was a free software-based search
facility that would help finding the right answers.  Since there is no
such thing, and the GNU project does not sycophantically follow
well-known and already established non-free solutions in this area, my
point still holds, even if we completely ignore the fact that the
current state of affairs was solely driven by a solution to a
technical problem.

(BTW, what you report is already in the sysadmins' TODO, IIRC.)