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[Savannah-cvs] [448] Update Savannah SSL/TLS Information

From: bob
Subject: [Savannah-cvs] [448] Update Savannah SSL/TLS Information
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 19:05:35 -0400 (EDT)

Revision: 448
Author:   rwp
Date:     2021-10-03 19:05:33 -0400 (Sun, 03 Oct 2021)
Log Message:
Update Savannah SSL/TLS Information

First pass major rewrite of previous obsolete information.
Triggered by the recent DST Root CA X3 expiration.

Modified Paths:

Modified: trunk/sviki/SavannahTLSInfo.mdwn
--- trunk/sviki/SavannahTLSInfo.mdwn    2021-10-01 18:15:54 UTC (rev 447)
+++ trunk/sviki/SavannahTLSInfo.mdwn    2021-10-03 23:05:33 UTC (rev 448)
@@ -1,2 +1,158 @@
-Information regarding Savannah's certificate files may be found at
+Savannah TLS Information
+Savannah has been using Let's Encrypt certificates since around 2016.
+Prior to that time a number of different certificate authorities were
+used.  But the EFF's Let's Encrypt project has become very mainstream.
+Savannah systems have been using the EFF's Let's Encrypt certificates
+since then.
+Certificate Expiration Event September 2020
+On September 30, 2021, as planned the DST Root CA X3 cross-sign has
+expired for the Let's Encrypt trust chain.  That was a normal and
+planned event.  However coupled with a verification error in the code
+of libraries authenticating certificates it caused some clients that
+have not updated to fixed versions to have problems validating
+If you are experiencing invalid certificate chain problems with any of
+Savannah's Let's Encrypt certificates then please upgrade your client
+to the latest patches for your system.  There are too many systems to
+track and it would be a duplication of other efforts to track those
+here.  Instead please reference these resources as to upstream
+information and discussion about the issue.
+System Updates
+Of course any system operating with security support should have
+already updated at least three packages.
+* gnutls
+* libssl
+* ca-certificates
+The first two (gnutls and libssl) control the validation of the trust
+path.  The original versions operated incorrectly in validating the
+trust path in a way that is triggered when the default trust path has
+an expired certificate but an alternative path exists that is fully
+valid.  Because the libraries fail if any of the paths fail, not
+succeed if any of the paths succeed.  To paraphrase and simplify the
+description.  See the above references for the deep dive into the
+technical details.
+The last one (ca-certificates) contains the trusted root certificates
+used to anchor the trust path.  Routinely trust path anchors change as
+the Internet is always in motion and always changing.  It is important
+to have a current set of trust anchors.
+Reported Client Side Problems
+There have been user reports of problems with SSL/TLS connections with
+the certificate validation.  It was asked that we hint here to users
+experiencing those problems so that they will know it is a client side
+issue and not a server side issue.  I will give an example system that
+is problematic by default without any automatic upgrade available.
+* Trisquel GNU/Linux Belenos 7
+This is an example of a system that is out of security support.  By
+default it will have trouble validating the trust path now that the
+DST Root CA X3 has expired.
+Example of a wget https certificate validation failure due to errors
+validating due to expired DST Root CA X3.
+    $ wget -S -O/dev/null
+    --2021-10-03 18:37:25--
+    Resolving ( 2001:470:142::72,
+    Connecting to (|2001:470:142::72|:443... 
+    ERROR: cannot verify's certificate, issued by 
‘/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=R3’:
+      Issued certificate has expired.
+    To connect to insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
+Example of a curl https certificate validation failure due to errors
+validating due to expired DST Root CA X3.
+    $ curl -LD- -o/dev/null
+      % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  
+                                     Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  
+      0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   
+    curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired
+    More details here:
+    curl performs SSL certificate verification by default, using a "bundle"
+     of Certificate Authority (CA) public keys (CA certs). If the default
+     bundle file isn't adequate, you can specify an alternate file
+     using the --cacert option.
+    If this HTTPS server uses a certificate signed by a CA represented in
+     the bundle, the certificate verification probably failed due to a
+     problem with the certificate (it might be expired, or the name might
+     not match the domain name in the URL).
+    If you'd like to turn off curl's verification of the certificate, use
+     the -k (or --insecure) option.
+Because Trisquel 7 is out of security support a simple upgrade from
+the software distribution repositories will not automatically upgrade
+the packages needed to mitigate this problem.  One would need to
+manually install a newer ca-certificates package and/or build
+backported gnutls and libssl libraries.
+Fortunately a simpler mitigation is possible.  Commenting out the DST
+Root CA X3 certificate from the ca-certificates.conf file and
+rebuilding the database is minimally sufficient.  Locate the
+"mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt" in the `/etc/ca-certificates.conf` file,
+comment it out using a "!" at the beginning of the line, run
+`update-ca-certificates` to rebuild the database, then test the
+Here are a few useful command line commands.  First we can grep to
+check the status of that line in the file.  Is it there?  Is it
+active?  Is it commented out?
+    grep DST_Root_CA_X3 /etc/ca-certificates.conf
+If it is there and not commented out then we can use this one line sed
+command to edit the file.  And then follow with the
+`update-ca-certificates` to rebuild the database.
+    sed --in-place '/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt/s/^/!/' /etc/ca-certificates.conf
+    update-ca-certificates
+Then test the result.
+    wget -q -S -O/dev/null
+    curl -sLD- -o/dev/null
+Even Older Systems
+Even older systems will need an updated ca-certificates anchor store
+as they will be so old they do not know about the newer ISRG Root X1
+certificate anchoring the current trust path.  This can be manually
+accomplished by downloading the ISRG Root X1 certificate in pem format
+from <> and installing it in
+`/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/ISRG_Root_X1.crt`, adding it to
+the `/etc/ca-certificates.conf` file, running `update-ca-certificates`
+to rebuild the database, and then certificates should be trusted again.
+I would like to say to "wget"/"curl" the above into place but being an
+https link that likely will not work.  One can add the "curl
+--insecure" and "wget --no-check-certificate" options.  But obviously
+those are not secure ways.  Copy to the local desktop clipboard and
+then pasting into the file from the clipboard may be good enough.
+Add the certificate to the `/etc/ca-certificates.conf` anchors and
+then run `update-ca-certificates` to update the database.  Then test
+the result.

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