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Re: [PATCH-for-9.1 v2 2/3] migration: Remove RDMA protocol handling
From: |
Haris Iqbal |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH-for-9.1 v2 2/3] migration: Remove RDMA protocol handling |
Date: |
Wed, 29 May 2024 13:13:00 +0200 |
Hello,
I am part of the storage kernel team which develops and maintains the
RDMA block storage in IONOS.
We work closely with Jinpu/Yu, and currently I am supporting Jinpu
with this Qemu RDMA work.
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:49 AM Gonglei (Arei) via
<qemu-devel@nongnu.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/CAMGffEn-DKpMZ4tA71MJYdyemg0Zda
> > > > > > > 15
> > > > > > > > > wVAqk81vXtKzx-LfJQ@mail.gmail.com/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Appreciate a lot for everyone helping on the testings.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > InfiniBand controller: Mellanox Technologies MT27800
> > > > > > > > > > Family [ConnectX-5]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > which doesn't meet our purpose. I can choose RDMA or TCP
> > > > > > > > > > for VM migration. RDMA traffic is through InfiniBand and
> > > > > > > > > > TCP through Ethernet on these two hosts. One is standby
> > > > > > > > > > while the other
> > > > is active.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Now I'll try on a server with more recent Ethernet and
> > > > > > > > > > InfiniBand network adapters. One of them has:
> > > > > > > > > > BCM57414 NetXtreme-E 10Gb/25Gb RDMA Ethernet Controller
> > > > > > > > > > (rev
> > > > > > > > > > 01)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The comparison between RDMA and TCP on the same NIC
> > > > > > > > > > could make more
> > > > > > > > > sense.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It looks to me NICs are powerful now, but again as I
> > > > > > > > > mentioned I don't think it's a reason we need to deprecate
> > > > > > > > > rdma, especially if QEMU's rdma migration has the chance
> > > > > > > > > to be refactored
> > > > using rsocket.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is there anyone who started looking into that direction?
> > > > > > > > > Would it make sense we start some PoC now?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My team has finished the PoC refactoring which works well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Progress:
> > > > > > > > 1. Implement io/channel-rdma.c, 2. Add unit test
> > > > > > > > tests/unit/test-io-channel-rdma.c and verifying it is
> > > > > > > > successful, 3. Remove the original code from migration/rdma.c,
> > > > > > > > 4.
> > > > > > > > Rewrite the rdma_start_outgoing_migration and
> > > > > > > > rdma_start_incoming_migration logic, 5. Remove all rdma_xxx
> > > > > > > > functions from migration/ram.c. (to prevent RDMA live
> > > > > > > > migration from polluting the
> > > > > > > core logic of live migration), 6. The soft-RoCE implemented
> > > > > > > by software is used to test the RDMA live migration. It's
> > > > > > > successful.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We will be submit the patchset later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's great news, thank you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Peter Xu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For rdma programming, the current mainstream implementation is
> > > > > > to use
> > > > rdma_cm to establish a connection, and then use verbs to transmit data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rdma_cm and ibverbs create two FDs respectively. The two FDs
> > > > > > have different responsibilities. rdma_cm fd is used to notify
> > > > > > connection establishment events, and verbs fd is used to notify
> > > > > > new CQEs. When
> > > > poll/epoll monitoring is directly performed on the rdma_cm fd, only
> > > > a pollin event can be monitored, which means that an rdma_cm event
> > > > occurs. When the verbs fd is directly polled/epolled, only the
> > > > pollin event can be listened, which indicates that a new CQE is
> > > > generated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rsocket is a sub-module attached to the rdma_cm library and
> > > > > > provides rdma calls that are completely similar to socket
> > > > > > interfaces.
> > > > > > However, this library returns only the rdma_cm fd for listening
> > > > > > to link
> > > > setup-related events and does not expose the verbs fd (readable and
> > > > writable events for listening to data). Only the rpoll interface
> > > > provided by the RSocket can be used to listen to related events.
> > > > However, QEMU uses the ppoll interface to listen to the rdma_cm fd
> > (gotten by raccept API).
> > > > > > And cannot listen to the verbs fd event.
> > I'm confused, the rs_poll_arm
> > :https://github.com/linux-rdma/rdma-core/blob/master/librdmacm/rsocket.c#
> > L3290
> > For STREAM, rpoll setup fd for both cq fd and cm fd.
> >
>
> Right. But the question is QEMU do not use rpoll but gilb's ppoll. :(
I have a query around this topic. Are the fds used in socket migration
polled through ppoll?
If yes, then can someone point out where; I couldn't find that piece of code.
I could only find that sendmsg/send and recvmsg/recv is being used.
>
>
> Regards,
> -Gonglei
>
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