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Re: [PATCH] acpi: pcihp: make pending delete expire in 5sec


From: Igor Mammedov
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi: pcihp: make pending delete expire in 5sec
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 09:30:20 +0200

On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 10:42:04 -0400
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 04:04:35PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 08:46:15 -0400
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:28:07AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 13:23:45 -0400
> > > > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 06:16:18PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:    
> > > > > > with Q35 using ACPI PCI hotplug by default, user's request to unplug
> > > > > > device is ignored when it's issued before guest OS has been booted.
> > > > > > And any additional attempt to request device hot-unplug afterwards
> > > > > > results in following error:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   "Device XYZ is already in the process of unplug"
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > arguably it can be considered as a regression introduced by [2],
> > > > > > before which it was possible to issue unplug request multiple
> > > > > > times.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Allowing pending delete expire brings ACPI PCI hotplug on par
> > > > > > with native PCIe unplug behavior [1] which in its turn refers
> > > > > > back to ACPI PCI hotplug ability to repeat unplug requests.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > PS:      
> > > > > > >From ACPI point of view, unplug request sets PCI hotplug status    
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > bit in GPE0 block. However depending on OSPM, status bits may
> > > > > > be retained (Windows) or cleared (Linux) during guest's ACPI
> > > > > > subsystem initialization, and as result Linux guest looses
> > > > > > plug/unplug event (no SCI generated) if plug/unplug has
> > > > > > happend before guest OS initialized GPE registers handling.
> > > > > > I couldn't find any restrictions wrt OPM clearing GPE status
> > > > > > bits ACPI spec.
> > > > > > Hence a fallback approach is to let user repeat unplug request
> > > > > > later at the time when guest OS has booted.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) 18416c62e3 ("pcie: expire pending delete")
> > > > > > 2)
> > > > > > Fixes: cce8944cc9ef ("qdev-monitor: Forbid repeated device_del")
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>      
> > > > > 
> > > > > A bit concerned about how this interacts with failover,
> > > > > and 5sec is a lot of time that I hoped we'd avoid with acpi.
> > > > > Any better ideas of catching such misbehaving guests?    
> > > > 
> > > > It shouldn't affect affect failover, pending_delete is not
> > > > cleared after all (only device removal should do that).
> > > > So all patch does is allowing to reissue unplug request
> > > > in case it was lost, delay here doesn't mean much
> > > > (do you have any preference wrt specific value)?    
> > > 
> > > I'd prefer immediately.  
> > 
> > ok, lets use 1ms then, I'd rather reuse the preexisting
> > pending_deleted_expires_ms machinery instead of
> > special-casing immediate repeat.  
> 
> And just to make sure, are you working on fixing this in Linux
> at least? Because the work around is ok but it still causes
> latency.


Fixing what, clearing GPE status bits during ACPI subsystem
initialization?

Well at this point I'm not seeing a good justification for
removing GPE clearing (spec does not mandate that).
(but there is no harm in trying to send a patch, though
even if idea is accepted it won't do a dime for all current
and older distributions history show it was the thing even
since 2.6 kernels).

As for workaround, well it's not a workaround, but expected
behavior. 
ACPI hotplug expects functioning OSPM on guest side to work
properly. It's user's mistake to ask for unplug before that 
and user shall repeat request once guest is booted. What is
broken on QEMU side is that 'repeat' thingy (as it's noted
in commit message).

PS:
See commit message, Windows is not affected as it doesn't
clear GPE status bits during ACPI initialization
(at least the one version I've tested with, and I won't bet
on this with other versions or staying this way)

> 
> > >   
> > > > As for 'misbehaving' - I tried to find justification
> > > > for it in spec, but I couldn't.
> > > > Essentially it's upto OSPM to clear or not GPE status
> > > > bits at startup (linux was doing it since forever),
> > > > depending on guest's ability to handle hotplug events
> > > > at boot time.
> > > > 
> > > > It's more a user error, ACPI hotplug does imply booted
> > > > guest for it to function properly. So it's fine to
> > > > loose unplug event at boot time. What QEMU does wrong is
> > > > preventing follow up unplug requests.  
> > > >     
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also at this point I do not know why we deny hotplug
> > > > > pending_deleted_event in qdev core.  
> > > > > Commit log says:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Device unplug can be done asynchronously. Thus, sending the second
> > > > >     device_del before the previous unplug is complete may lead to
> > > > >     unexpected results. On PCIe devices, this cancels the hot-unplug
> > > > >     process.
> > > > > 
> > > > > so it's a work around for an issue in pcie hotplug (and maybe shpc
> > > > > too?). Maybe we should have put that check in pcie/shpc and
> > > > > leave acpi along?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >     
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > CC: mst@redhat.com
> > > > > > CC: anisinha@redhat.com
> > > > > > CC: jusual@redhat.com
> > > > > > CC: kraxel@redhat.com
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  hw/acpi/pcihp.c | 2 ++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/hw/acpi/pcihp.c b/hw/acpi/pcihp.c
> > > > > > index dcfb779a7a..cd4f9fee0a 100644
> > > > > > --- a/hw/acpi/pcihp.c
> > > > > > +++ b/hw/acpi/pcihp.c
> > > > > > @@ -357,6 +357,8 @@ void 
> > > > > > acpi_pcihp_device_unplug_request_cb(HotplugHandler *hotplug_dev,
> > > > > >       * acpi_pcihp_eject_slot() when the operation is completed.
> > > > > >       */
> > > > > >      pdev->qdev.pending_deleted_event = true;
> > > > > > +    pdev->qdev.pending_deleted_expires_ms =
> > > > > > +        qemu_clock_get_ms(QEMU_CLOCK_VIRTUAL) + 5000; /* 5 secs */
> > > > > >      s->acpi_pcihp_pci_status[bsel].down |= (1U << slot);
> > > > > >      acpi_send_event(DEVICE(hotplug_dev), ACPI_PCI_HOTPLUG_STATUS);
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > 2.39.1      
> > > > >     
> > >   
> 




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