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Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events
From: |
Daniel P . Berrangé |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events |
Date: |
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 11:13:26 +0000 |
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Mutt/2.2.9 (2022-11-12) |
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 09:54:22AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 05:01:01PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
> > wrote:
> >> The device field is redundant, because QOM path always include device
> >> ID when this ID exist.
> >
> > The flipside to that view is that applications configuring QEMU are
> > specifying the device ID for -device (CLI) / device_add (QMP) and
> > not the QOM path. IOW, the device ID is the more interesting field
> > than QOM path, so feels like the wrong one to be dropping.
>
> QOM path is a reliable way to identify a device. Device ID isn't:
> devices need not have one. Therefore, dropping the QOM path would be
> wrong.
>
> > Is there any real benefit to dropping this ?
>
> The device ID is a trap for the unwary: relying on it is fine until you
> run into a scenario where you have to deal with devices lacking IDs.
When a mgmt app is configuring QEMU though, it does it exclusively
with device ID values. If I add a device "-device foo,id=dev0",
and then later hot-unplug it "device_del dev0", it is pretty
reasonable to then expect that the DEVICE_DELETED even will then
include the ID value the app has been using elsewhere.
If the mgmt app is using IDs everywhere when dealing with a device,
then trap effectively doesn't exist for their usage scenario.
With regards,
Daniel
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- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, (continued)
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2023/02/13
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Peter Krempa, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events,
Daniel P . Berrangé <=
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/14
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2023/02/15
- Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] qapi: deprecate "device" field of DEVICE_* events, Markus Armbruster, 2023/02/15
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