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Re: Emulating device configuration / max_virtqueue_pairs in vhost-vdpa a


From: Eugenio Perez Martin
Subject: Re: Emulating device configuration / max_virtqueue_pairs in vhost-vdpa and vhost-user
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 07:55:44 +0100

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 4:27 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:10 AM Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The current approach of offering an emulated CVQ to the guest and map
> > the commands to vhost-user is not scaling well:
> > * Some devices already offer it, so the transformation is redundant.
> > * There is no support for commands with variable length (RSS?)
> >
> > We can solve both of them by offering it through vhost-user the same
> > way as vhost-vdpa do. With this approach qemu needs to track the
> > commands, for similar reasons as vhost-vdpa: qemu needs to track the
> > device status for live migration. vhost-user should use the same SVQ
> > code for this, so we avoid duplications.
>
> Note that it really depends on the model we used. SVQ works well for
> trap and emulation (without new API to be invented). But if save and
> load API is invented, SVQ is not a must.
>

That's right, but the premise in the proposal is that control vq RSS
messages are already complex enough to avoid adding more vhost-user
messages. I cannot imagine expanding the vhost-user or virtio API to
add the save and restore functions soon :).

> >
> > One of the challenges here is to know what virtqueue to shadow /
> > isolate. The vhost-user device may not have the same queues as the
> > device frontend:
> > * The first depends on the actual vhost-user device, and qemu fetches
> > it with VHOST_USER_GET_QUEUE_NUM at the moment.
> > * The qemu device frontend's is set by netdev queues= cmdline parameter in 
> > qemu
> >
> > For the device, the CVQ is the last one it offers, but for the guest
> > it is the last one offered in config space.
> >
> > To create a new vhost-user command to decrease that maximum number of
> > queues may be an option. But we can do it without adding more
> > commands, remapping the CVQ index at virtqueue setup. I think it
> > should be doable using (struct vhost_dev).vq_index and maybe a few
> > adjustments here and there.
>
> It requires device specific knowledge, it might work for networking
> devices but not others (or need new codes).
>

Yes, I didn't review all the other kinds of devices for the proposal,
but I'm assuming:
* There is no other device that has already implemented CVQ over
vhost-user (or this problems would have been solved)
* All vhost-user devices config space are already offered by qemu like
vhost-user net, and the cvq-alike index is well defined in the
standard like -net.

So this proposal should fit all those devices, isn't it?

Thanks!




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