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Re: venv for python qtest bits? (was: Re: [PATCH 11/12] acpi/tests/bits:


From: Daniel P . Berrangé
Subject: Re: venv for python qtest bits? (was: Re: [PATCH 11/12] acpi/tests/bits: add README file for bits qtests)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:42:37 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/2.2.6 (2022-06-05)

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 03:58:21PM +0530, Ani Sinha wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:37 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 11:04:30AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > If it is actually booting a real guest image (from biosbits) and 
> > > interacting
> > > with it, then it does feel like the scope of this testing is more 
> > > appropriate
> > > to QEMU's avocado framework than qtest, especially given the desire to use
> > > python for it all.
> > >
> > > With regards,
> > > Daniel
> >
> > I feel avocado is directed towards booting full fledged guest OS.
> > It makes it much easier to figure out guest issues but it also
> > prone to false positives and is harder to debug as a result.
> > Booting a minimal image like this shouldn't require that.
> 
> Yes 100% agree with Michael on this. Biobits is *not* booting any OS
> image. It runs off grub, that is, directly from bootloader stage. The
> interraction with the VM is minimal.

Just because it doesn't run a whole Linux kernel, doesn't make it
not a guest OS image. It is merely unsual in that it can do everything
it needs from grub stage, because it is just poking low level BIOS
stuff and doesn't need a full OS like Linux on top. This is still
functional integration testing IMHO and relevant to avocado in QEMU.

With regards,
Daniel
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