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Re: [PATCH 4/4] vl: Prioritize realizations of devices


From: Markus Armbruster
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] vl: Prioritize realizations of devices
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 13:35:04 +0200
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Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:43:59AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>> > > A simple state machine can track "has IOMMU" state.  It has three states
>> > > "no so far", "yes", and "no", and two events "add IOMMU" and "add device
>> > > that needs to know".  State diagram:
>> > > 
>> > >                           no so far
>> > >                    +--- (start state) ---+
>> > >                    |                     |
>> > >          add IOMMU |                     | add device that
>> > >                    |                     |  needs to know
>> > >                    v                     v
>> > >              +--> yes                    no <--+
>> > >              |     |   add device that   |     |
>> > >              +-----+    needs to know    +-----+
>> > > 
>> > > "Add IOMMU" in state "no" is an error.
>> > 
>> > question is how we distinguish "device that needs to know"
>> > from device that doesn't need to know, and then recently
>> > added feature 'bypass IOMMU' adds more fun to this.
>> 
>> Maybe we can start from "no device needs to know"? Then add more into it when
>> the list expands.
>> 
>> vfio-pci should be a natural fit because we're sure it won't break any valid
>> old configurations.  However we may need to be careful on adding more 
>> devices,
>> e.g. when some old configuration might work on old binaries, but I'm not 
>> sure.
>
> Btw, I think this state machine is indeed bringing some complexity on even
> understanding it - it is definitely working but it's not obvious to anyone at
> the first glance, and it's only solving problem for vIOMMU.  E.g., do we need
> yet another state machine for some other ordering constraints?
>
> From that POV, I don't like this solution more than the simple "assign 
> priority
> for device realization" idea..

I wouldn't worry about other ordering constraints until we have them.
If you do, please tell!

I'm hoping you can't, because such implicit constraints are commonly
signs of oversimplified / screwed up machine modeling.




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