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RE: [RFC 0/1] Use dmabufs for display updates instead of pixman


From: Kasireddy, Vivek
Subject: RE: [RFC 0/1] Use dmabufs for display updates instead of pixman
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:28:33 +0000

Hi Gerd,
Sorry for the delayed response. I wanted to wait until I finished my 
proof-of-concept --
that included adding synchronization --  to ask follow up questions.

> >
> > Does your work above not count for anything?
> 
> It is quite old, and I think not up-to-date with the final revision of the 
> blob resource
> specification.  I wouldn't be able to update this in near future due to being 
> busy with other
> projects.  Feel free to grab & update & submit these patches though.
[Kasireddy, Vivek] Sure, we'll take a look at your work and use that as a 
starting
point. Roughly, how much of your work can be reused?

Also, given my limited understanding of how discrete GPUs work, I was wondering 
how 
many copies would there need to be with blob resources/dmabufs and whether a 
zero-copy
goal would be feasible or not?

> 
> Beside the code duplication this is also a maintainance issue.  This adds one 
> more
> configuration to virtio-gpu.  Right now you can build virtio-gpu with virgl 
> (depends on
> opengl), or you can build without virgl (doesn't use opengl then).  I don't 
> think it is a good
> idea to add a third mode, without virgl support but using opengl for blob 
> dma-bufs.
[Kasireddy, Vivek] We'll have to re-visit this part but for our use-case with 
virtio-gpu, we
are disabling virglrenderer in Qemu and virgl DRI driver in the Guest. However, 
we still
need to use Opengl/EGL to convert the dmabuf (guest fb) to texture and render 
as part of
the UI/GTK updates. 

> 
> 
> > On a different note, any particular reason why Qemu UI EGL
> > implementation is limited to Xorg and not extended to Wayland/Weston
> > for which there is GTK glarea?
> 
> Well, ideally I'd love to just use glarea.  Which happens on wayland.
> 
> The problem with Xorg is that the gtk x11 backend uses glx not egl to create 
> an opengl
> context for glarea.  At least that used to be the case in the past, maybe 
> that has changed
> with newer versions.  qemu needs egl contexts though, otherwise dma-bufs 
> don't work.  So
> we are stuck with our own egl widget implementation for now.  Probably we 
> will be able
> to drop it at some point in the future.
[Kasireddy, Vivek] GTK X11 backend still uses GLX and it seems like that is not 
going to 
change anytime soon. Having said that, I was wondering if it makes sense to add 
a new
purely Wayland backend besides GtkGlArea so that Qemu UI can more quickly adopt 
new
features such as explicit sync. I was thinking about the new backend being 
similar to this:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/tree/clients/simple-dmabuf-egl.c

The reason why I am proposing this idea is because even if we manage to add 
explicit 
sync support to GTK and it gets merged, upgrading Qemu GTK support from 3.22 
to > 4.x may prove to be daunting. Currently, the way I am doing explicit sync 
is
by adding these new APIs to GTK and calling them from Qemu:

static int
create_egl_fence_fd(EGLDisplay dpy)
{
        EGLSyncKHR sync = eglCreateSyncKHR(dpy,
                                           EGL_SYNC_NATIVE_FENCE_ANDROID,
                                           NULL);
        int fd;

        g_assert(sync != EGL_NO_SYNC_KHR);
        fd = eglDupNativeFenceFDANDROID(dpy, sync);
        g_assert(fd >= 0);

        eglDestroySyncKHR(dpy, sync);

        return fd;
}

static void
wait_for_buffer_release_fence(EGLDisplay dpy)
{
        int ret;
        EGLint attrib_list[] = {
                EGL_SYNC_NATIVE_FENCE_FD_ANDROID, release_fence_fd,
                EGL_NONE,
        };

        if (release_fence_fd < 0)
          return;

        EGLSyncKHR sync = eglCreateSyncKHR(dpy,
                                           EGL_SYNC_NATIVE_FENCE_ANDROID,
                                           attrib_list);
        g_assert(sync);

        release_fence_fd = -1;
        eglClientWaitSyncKHR(dpy, sync, 0,
                             EGL_FOREVER_KHR);
        eglDestroySyncKHR(dpy, sync);
}

And, of-course, I am tying the wait above to a dma_fence associated with the
previous guest FB that is signalled to ensure that the Host is done using the 
FB 
thereby providing explicit synchronization between Guest and Host. It seems to
work OK but I was wondering if you had any alternative ideas or suggestions 
for doing explicit or implicit sync that are more easier.

Lastly, on a different note, I noticed that there is a virtio-gpu Windows 
driver here:
https://github.com/virtio-win/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/tree/master/viogpu

We are going to try it out but do you know how up to date it is kept?


Thanks,
Vivek





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